TSI squeal noise problem on acceleration

[MIRSAD]

Hi,
My story:
Mar 09 118TSI with DSG - happy
2 months after squealing noise - worried
Stretched between dealership, VW customer care and technical support - angry
Water pump replaced - no squealing noise - happy again
4 weeks after noise is back - disappointed
After written respond from VW Australia that squealing noise is normal - really angry
I decided to take action (with Dep. of consumer protection) at the same time I recorded noise on iphone and posted on You tube under VW GOLF 118TSI NOISE... - this is address
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLu73I1QD7M
New Dealership (Wangara WA) where I bought my car wanted to test it for 2 days.
They found that problem is (as some people indicated) pulley - lubricated it and I am without noise 7 - 8 weeks for how long they can't tell me ... I am hoping that when problem is identified and short term solution found that permanent solution should not be far away
Then I found this website... after hearing about all the problems - I am worried again

[Guest]

ALl well and good. But how long will the lubrication fix it for? And do you think its a good idea to lubricate something that is meant to grip ie: the clutch? What if it starts slipping? What are the long term effects of lubricating the friction material? Because i know gearbox clutches dont like getting oil on them.

[MIRSAD]

Thank You on that information,
Really I am not technical person and I am going to ask service manager about that when I go there next time.
I am really not sure what was lubricated (he was talking about pulley)... I was so happy when noise is gone and if they are "factory trained technicians" with experience who would be thinking that they are going to do something stupid.

[tinto]

Are you guys talking about the sc chirp when it engages/disengages or something more prolonged?

If it is the chirp... I found that just one of the cool sounds of the twincharged engine and never considered it something to worry about.(mkv gt sport)
Feels like a tiny sound is being blown out of proportion if we are thinking of the same thing.

Edit : are you on and off the accelerator on that video clip or is that normal driving?
If that is normal driving / steady on the accelerator then the repetitive chirp is pretty annoying, but if you're on/off the accelerator, then see my comments above... I found it a charming sound

It is like filing a complaint that there is sound coming out of my exhaust when surely it is only for gasses.

[MIRSAD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLu73I1QD7M
You can hear it on this You tube address - I recorded it on iphone

[tinto]

Yep, edited my post after watching it.

[MIRSAD]

It is coming when you press accelerator ... for me it is annoying (like metal on metal) especially for so quite car.

[tinto]

yep - it is fair enough that you want that system to be quiet.
I enjoyed the noises my GT TSI made, IMO a twincharger certainly makes more interesting sounds than my Pirelli GTI does.

different strokes for different folks - good luck in your dealings with VW.
I hope that those who want a resolution/fix get it before they lose faith in a great car.

[Tommy]

I've lost faith. My 118TSI is the biggest hunk of junk on the road, its falling to bits. Its had around $30 000 of repairs and its only 3 months old and there's still more to fix... I'm over it....

[cktsi]

Had another drive with the VW Service Centre at Mascot. They confirmed it’s not a butterfly flap, but the waterpump pulley when it engages – just like everyone else is saying here.

They also said that there’s a tech bulletin out there and currently no known fix.

I asked them about lubricating any of the pulleys, but their response is that the squeak happens when the clutch engages… it has to be a high friction surface… so they didn’t want to lubricate anything at all as it’s contrary to the way the part is intended to work.

They also didn’t want to replace the water pump only for the problem to return – fair call.

They are hoping for some resolution as they do know it’s a widely reported issue. They couldn’t promise anything (of course) and hinted that VW are working on some fix.