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Thread: TSI squeal noise problem on acceleration

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfyvic View Post
    Yep DSG, but take off from first, shouldn't do that....
    Yes 1st shouldnt do that. But the dsg is just an automated clutch than a traditional auto torque converter so the dsg will need to find friction point first or it will stall the car.

    My tip for quick takeoff is either let the clutch engage before smashing down the accelerator or do the following

    1. Before take off light accelerator with right foot while putting left on foot brake. Floor your right and lift your left off the brake on take off.

    2. Same as 1 but use hand brake instead of foot brake.

    For 1 i notice dsg disengages the clutch after a couple of seconds so you apply light throttle while foot braking just 1 second before your planned take off.

    I use method 2 cos sometimes i find i get bogged down in method 1.

    Sadly 7dsg doesnt come with launch control or you wouldnt have to do this

    You will win most traffic light races.

    i am posting on mobile but when i get access i will post link of dsg discussion.
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    Back to the thread topic... my August/September (can't remember which) build car was initially silent. Then from about 500km it started making (and still does) a soft sneezing/blow off noise when the supercharger disengages. It is very much not a squeak though.
    I assume it is when the supercharger disengages because it occurs after I've squeezed the pedal for some performance (love the torque!), but then backed off to light throttle somewhere between 2000-3000 rpm.

    Does this timing match with the infamouse squeak, and if it is indeed a different noise, does anyone think perhaps it indicates that the factory has made a change?

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    Hi all,

    I am in Devon, UK and have had the GT TSI 1.4 for two weeks. I've done over 2000 miles already and at 1200 miles it started to squeak on acceleration. A short, sharp squeak, audible in the car but worse with the window down.

    I went to the dealer yesterday who said it was 'a known fault', so no new news there! However, I then did some digging around the internet to discover this:

    In Germany: Cars built from week 45 will have a new waterpump (and Magentkupplung- whatever that is, from the forums of the same site below), so contact your dealers/VW UK now!

    http://www.michaelneuhaus.de/golf6/golf6-probleme.htm

    Translation

    http://translate.googleusercontent.c...BDLV1ltZFRX2dw

    So from the end of September 09 cars have been built to this spec, yet VW are not officially advising any changes to cars built prior to this date. They are still waiting to see if this resolves the problem! It is very frustrating but the UK dealer assured me a fix will be on its way and be resolved but could not give a timescale. I hope this new information and it helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfyvic View Post
    Yep DSG, but take off from first, shouldn't do that....
    Here is a better thread to pose DSG questions. It delves into how the DSG works... if anything it will help you understand & better what to expect from the DSG.

    It's probably worth posting in & reviving this other thread for DSG questions as this particular thread is about the magnetic clutch issue for the supercharger.
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    Just for those who are having this problem, I'd recommend you contact your dealer again as apparently VW have come up with the solution.

    I had the problem (after 20k km) and then the dealer lubricated it a bit and it was fine for 6 months.

    The squeal came back however.

    Anyways long story short I can't remember exactly but they either replace the pulley or the pulley belt (was occupied doing a few things at once when I rang unf.)

    This apparently fixes the problem with the squeal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwcarruthers View Post
    Back to the thread topic... my August/September (can't remember which) build car was initially silent. Then from about 500km it started making (and still does) a soft sneezing/blow off noise when the supercharger disengages. It is very much not a squeak though.
    I assume it is when the supercharger disengages because it occurs after I've squeezed the pedal for some performance (love the torque!), but then backed off to light throttle somewhere between 2000-3000 rpm.

    Does this timing match with the infamouse squeak, and if it is indeed a different noise, does anyone think perhaps it indicates that the factory has made a change?
    Completely different the squeak is evident upon accelerating and the initial engaging of the supercharger magnetic clutch. It does not sound when you back off on the accelerator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTom View Post
    Just for those who are having this problem, I'd recommend you contact your dealer again as apparently VW have come up with the solution.

    I had the problem (after 20k km) and then the dealer lubricated it a bit and it was fine for 6 months.

    The squeal came back however.

    Anyways long story short I can't remember exactly but they either replace the pulley or the pulley belt (was occupied doing a few things at once when I rang unf.)

    This apparently fixes the problem with the squeal...
    This type of fix was attempted in Sydney or Melbourne for someone in an earlier post about six months ago. VW last advised me in late November 09 that there is still no definitive answer yet. Was your fix as a result of a VW Tech bulletin or your dealer just trying something to resolve the problem.
    Last edited by coastie; 15-12-2009 at 05:18 PM. Reason: error
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    its strange.. when there new theres no noise.. then they seem to develop it over time.. we had 3 in the one week at one stage.. personally i love the nosie.. but i can also understand people's frustrations with a "strange" noise comming from the front, they've spent $35,000 on a car..

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    Quote Originally Posted by coastie View Post
    Completely different the squeak is evident upon accelerating and the initial engaging of the supercharger magnetic clutch. It does not sound when you back off on the accelerator.
    Hey Coastie, What makes you so sure it is happening during engagement of the supercharger magnetic clutch and not disengagement? I would challenge most people to be able to pick when the magnetic clutch engages unless they can see the telemetry. It is just that I reckon it actually occurs on disengagement of the clutch which also occurs during acceleration and typically only a couple of seconds after engagement.
    Very often by the time you back off the accelerator the mag clutch has already disengaged long ago. So this is often not the trigger for disengage, although depending on how you drive it can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logger View Post
    Hey Coastie, What makes you so sure it is happening during engagement of the supercharger magnetic clutch and not disengagement? I would challenge most people to be able to pick when the magnetic clutch engages unless they can see the telemetry. It is just that I reckon it actually occurs on disengagement of the clutch which also occurs during acceleration and typically only a couple of seconds after engagement.
    Very often by the time you back off the accelerator the mag clutch has already disengaged long ago. So this is often not the trigger for disengage, although depending on how you drive it can be.
    Logger.
    As the water pump builds up with solenoid clutch, the one-piece anchorage plate on the outer pulley starts to vibrate. The volume of the noise depends on the operating conditions. STRAIGHT OF THE VW TECHNICAL BULLETIN

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