Is the stock MK6 GTI quicker than 6.9s 0-100(DSG)??

[cameronp]

coreying: woah, the DSG makes more of a difference than I was expecting! I assume that's with launch control (which my 118TSI doesn't have)?

I haven't ever tried simultaneous throttle+brake on my Golf, except for a couple of times when I accidentally forgot it wasn't a manual and floored the brake expecting it to be a clutch pedal and simultaneously put it into neutral instinctively trying to change gears ... oops.

[Corey_R]

coreying: woah, the DSG makes more of a difference than I was expecting! I assume that's with launch control (which my 118TSI doesn't have)?

Yeah - it was with "launch control" and in S rather than 'manual'.

Check out the autocar.co.uk comparision of the Golf R in manual vs DSG here

[Guy_H]

If 0-100 times are a priority, then DSG rules, no doubt about it.

Also try 60 - 100, the dsg finds the right gear so quickly - it will kick a manuals ass.

[ConR]

Thanks all...great info. Personally, I want to be in tune with the car, so for sure manual has to be the way to go. My opinion is that a car like this needs a proper manual...engage the driver. I'm sure it will still go fast enough for me on Sydney roads...cops all over the place nowadays.

As long as I have enough pickup when I need it..especially the next time I'm at a red light sitting next to a rice rocket who thinks his single wiper conversion is the balls....and that having a badge that says "Spyder" on his Civic Type-R makes him go faster...being able to blow someone like that off the line has to be the best feeling in the world =)

[prise]

Either way, it kind of sounds strange that brake override is not "overriding" in their examples. They do mention that "Brake override is a software algorithm that gives the brakes precedence over the throttle if both are activated at once", but I mean, if they manage to 'fool' the brake override in all the cases that they've given, then I'd question how it would solve the unintended acceleration issue the manufacturers have been having.

Coreying, I've had a play with the throttle over-ride feature on my 118TSI and a couple of other manual Golfs I've hired when away on travel (I haven't driven a GTi manual) and it appears that the throttle doesn''t cut immediately as there is at least a 1 sec delay before it cuts. This was enough time to enable a quick blip when down shifting. Dabbing the brake mid corner with moderate throttle also didn't seem to be a problem. The main obstacle to effective heel-toe shifting on the non-sporting Golfs is the excessive servo assistance on the brakes and the mismatched accelerator and brake pedal heights.

[Corey_R]

Thanks for the info prise! If that is the case then heel-toe would be possible even with the brake override

[Oneofthegreats]

Thanks for the info prise! If that is the case then heel-toe would be possible even with the brake override

Just drove a GTI manual & you can heel-toe no worries..

As already said, there is a delay of approx 1sec before the brake/power override cuts in which is plenty of time for a heel toe.