Revo Technik Software

[Guy_H]

Isnt this thread about Revo Technik Software not APR?

True,

I just tried to keep it on topic as APR was mentioned.

White VR6 has posted several wrong things in her (or his) thread that need correcting (and have NOTHING to do with MKVI GTI's) - but we will leave that to the moderators.

FYI - at the top of the page - the FSI motor (Like the MKV) with the high pressure fuel pump driven from the exhaust cam, they are all the same in the transverse application. The GTI, Pirelli (ED30), S3, TT, TTS & Golf R all use exactly the same pump with the same volume. The APR hpfp has already been fitted to the new Golf R in Europe

[waterboy]

Well I posted the thread about Revo because that was the only chipping company I had heard of down here in Sydney, but thanks to many people posting replys and some added research I found that the APR tuning is more reliable and not as aggressive to the engine management system.

Revo is good but I do believe that APR is better.

The only place ive heard of that have Revo is Peak Performance in Parramatta.

Mighty Car Mods did a episode on Reflashing your ECU and they went to Peak Performance with their MK4 GTI and used the Revo Technik software for the chipping.

The final numbers were pretty good and the episode is pretty interesting to watch. Here's the link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLvvxMCUo5E

[philthy]

Well I posted the thread about Revo because that was the only chipping company I had heard of down here in Sydney, but thanks to many people posting replys and some added research I found that the APR tuning is more reliable and not as aggressive to the engine management system.

Revo is good but I do believe that APR is better.

The only place ive heard of that have Revo is Peak Performance in Parramatta.

Mighty Car Mods did a episode on Reflashing your ECU and they went to Peak Performance with their MK4 GTI and used the Revo Technik software for the chipping.

The final numbers were pretty good and the episode is pretty interesting to watch. Here's the link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLvvxMCUo5E

I don't see how a tune can be more reliable. Its a piece of software. All of the stage one tunes increase boost and fueling and advance the timing within the capabilities of the existing engine hardware.

Where is there any evidence of a Revo tune causing problems?

Its annoying that this garbage will pop up anytime someone does a search in future.

To be fair, I don't recall Guy ever claiming his software was 'more reliable' than anyone elses. It's just the fanboys.

[G-rig]

Well there isn't much info on the Revo tune in this thread anyway, but more reliable could also mean good customer after sales support and trouble shooting if necessary.

I wouldn't want to load a tune (whoever's it is) if it was too agressive or making the car less reliable than it is in stock mode.

[waterboy]

The numbers for the Revo reflash was an increase from 118kw to 163kw and torque from 240Nm to 320Nm. APR's numbers are 118 to 151Kw and 240Nm to 300Nm.

I'm simply saying that the APR's tuning isn't as aggressive as Revo's which gives me a little more reassurance.

[logger]

Well might you

I don't see how a tune can be more reliable. Its a piece of software.

Well Philtpy that statement is nye on garbage too. Hardware does not have a monopoly when it comes to reliability issues. Software can be notoriously unreliable.

[Corey_R]

@philthy - I took waterboy's comment to mean pretty much what he has mentioned in his follow up, combined with what G-rig has stated.

To me, the fact that APR information is clearly available, and that representatives like Guy_H are always ready and willing to assist with information and clarifications is a huge selling point. It gives the impression of a more complete package - not only product, but support etc.

[philthy]

Well might you

Well Philtpy that statement is nye on garbage too. Hardware does not have a monopoly when it comes to reliability issues. Software can be notoriously unreliable.

So what exactly is in this software? I was under the impression the tuners loaded up a set of reference tables for the ecu to refer to given inputs from the throttle and various other engine sensors, which the ecu then translates into boost request and fuelling etc.. surely a spreadsheet table can't be that unreliable?

And back to my earlier point, what evidence is there that Revo is unreliable?

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with APR software at all. I'm just seeing unsubstantiated guff about Revo. (nope, don't have either installed on my car)

[Corey_R]

So what exactly is in this software? I was under the impression the tuners loaded up a set of reference tables for the ecu to refer to given inputs from the throttle and various other engine sensors, which the ecu then translates into boost request and fuelling etc.. surely a spreadsheet table can't be that unreliable?

Of course a spreadsheet can be unreliable! A spreadsheet is only reliable as the information you enter into it. Each of the tuners have different outcomes, so obviously they have varying ideas as to what is best, and thus their spreadsheets will be different. (I have no idea how this is done, I'm just running with your spreadsheet idea).

And back to my earlier point, what evidence is there that Revo is unreliable?

I'm not sure anyone has said that Revo is unreliable. If anyone has said that, I don't think their statement is correct unless they have some proof to back this up. Waterboy simply stated, as others have, that the Revo software is the most agressively tuned option out there at this point. Waterboy has decided he'll probably go with APR as their ECU update isn't pushing the power and torque as far as the Revo ECU update does, and therefore he wouldn't expect it to be as hard on the car. You could stretch this to conclude that cars with the APR ECU may be more reliable over a given period of time than the Revo ECU tunes because of this - but we both know that's an overly simplistic way to view the situation and there probably isn't data to support either situation.

But as I said, I haven't seen anyone say Revo is unreliable in this thread - just that their tune is more aggressive than the APR, which it is, so I don't think it's right for you to get upset at people for stating facts unless you have something to show otherwise

[philthy]

But as I said, I haven't seen anyone say Revo is unreliable in this thread - just that their tune is more aggressive than the APR, which it is, so I don't think it's right for you to get upset at people for stating facts unless you have something to show otherwise

Well I posted the thread about Revo because that was the only chipping company I had heard of down here in Sydney, but thanks to many people posting replys and some added research I found that the APR tuning is more reliable and not as aggressive to the engine management system.

Revo is good but I do believe that APR is better.

Don't worry, I'm not upset, it's only the internets. Nobody has bopped me on the nose