this could be a good option:
Volkswagen OE Driver Gear Springs by Eibach
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Guys & girls,
After last weekend's squirt around Lakeside, I think the GTI needs some tighter arse muscles. It felt a little wafty ducking through the bends. Bearing in mind I do about 600km a week, city and highway driving, I want to retain comparable comfort levels of the standard suspension as much as reasonably possible, but just want a bit less body roll for the odd occasion when it gets thrown around corners. It's a little bit frustrating when the car has enough power to get around the corner fast, but the back end is throwing it's weight around and slowing things down.
I'm also not looking to spend too much more money on the car, as I only have it on a 3 year lease.
I am thinking of throwing on either front and rear sway bars, or just a rear sway bar, if that is going to do a good enough job. With the XDL the front end feels okay, it's just the back that throws it's weight around a bit too much. Corner under braking or neutral acceleration is probably the worst, corner under acceleration seems to make the rear end sit down and shut up, and the XDL seems to pull the car around the corner quite well.
If anyone has similar experience with their GTI and has improved the handling for options under about $1000 or so, would love to hear about it.
Cheers,
Tobes
this could be a good option:
Volkswagen OE Driver Gear Springs by Eibach
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Has anyone done just the springs? I'm thinking maybe the H&R sport springs. They lower it by about 40mm which is fine. Should cost about $800 or so fitted. Maybe I'd do the rear sway bar at the same time.....
if you're really after cornering performance the springs probably arent going to help - mismatched springs and dampers are never a good thing.
i'd try the sway bar first, and perhaps rear axle bushes or something like that - either solid/stiffer rubber, or polyurethane (not as good as rubber) to tighten things up?
naturally, cornering under braking/ lifting off, is going to unsettle the back, and cornering under power is going to transfer some weight to the rear and thus help the car feel more stable.
you didnt take the rear seats out for the track day, did you?
I know this could go in the but seeing as it relates to this, if any of the gti owners are swapping out there stock springs for an upgrade, I would be interested in buying a set of springs in good condition
I had Eibach pro kit springs on my Golf for 10 months and found the ride terrible at high speeds. The car felt very unsettled and sometimes dangerous on uneven road surface and at speeds above 100km/h. Even driving between Toowoomba and Brisbane on that crappy Warrego Hwy and hit a bump I would almost get thrown out of my seat.
Two weeks ago I purchased Bilstein B8 struts and shocks to match the springs. Had them installed last Friday and what a difference the car rides now! It soaks up the bumps now and when I drive it hard in the corners now it is awesome! I also have whiteline F&R sway bars too.
My Brother had a whiteline rear sway bar installed on his GTI and it made a huge difference to his handling and it was a cheap mod.
I just feel if your going to change springs it will be better to put in matching shocks to and save yourself on labour. I learnt the hard way.
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i have a set of eibach pro kit springs but they are a custom set researched and put together by derek at EA and rob van oz from eibach australia. it is completely different to the off the shelf pro kit that they sell. it actually feels exactly like stock but is lower, and it doestn have the raked forward stance that the pro kit has.
it isnt unsettled, it feels like the oem springs. cant really fault it, plus no scrubbing issues with my 19" rims and tyres
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should wait for the suspension Guru to give his thoughts on his newly installed springs:
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IMO, the above set of springs, Whiteline Anti Lift Kit and rear H&R 22mm sway bar should improve the handling of a Mk6 GTI well.
My own set up is PSS10, Whiteline Anti Lift Kit and rear H&R 22mm sway bar. This has helped my GTI corner fast on track, including last month's relaxing happy laps at the Lakeside. Front 26mm sway is yet to be installed..
Last edited by nat225; 06-02-2012 at 11:10 PM.
He has DCC on his car which will adjust to the altered spring rate to some extent.
What Buller_Scott and Brendan_A have posted is good advice. In fact, I would recommend upgrading the dampers BEFORE changing springs except that springs alone are pretty cheap so you may as well avoid the extra labour of separate fitting.
To the OP, the easiest and cheapest alteration would be the rear anti-roll bar. Being so cheap and easy to install, I would normally do this first, although given your description of your car's behavior, it may make it worse.
Last edited by kaanage; 07-02-2012 at 06:46 AM.
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I've been thinking about this too, and was looking into H&R 22 or 24 rear sways, but was unsure of which to go for.
Does anyone with some experience know if there's much a difference with the 22 and 24s? Especially since they have the 3 settings, would the changes felt perhaps overlap?
Thanks in advance guys.
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