Petrol type poll for GTI owners ::please vote::

[Corey_R]

Murphy no offense to your post above, but again, in EVERY article, VW documentation, and the link that you posted, it is the recommended minimum.

So they are not saying "you must use 95 octane fuel".
They are saying "you must use a minimum of 95 octane fuel".

A "recommended minimum" of 95 means "don't use 91".
Previously, the recommended minimum was 98, which meant "don't use 91 or 95".

Your link only confirms what I'm saying.

There is still nothing stopping anyone from chosing to use the better quality 98 octane fuel.

[MurphyTheElf]

OK I think we're going around in circles here for the sake of semantics. So let's agree to disagree even though we kind of agree.

[Corey_R]

We do kinda agree. The problem is not semantics though. The problem is that too many people seem to be "reading what they want to" and missing the key word which is present in all the statements.

Take your article for example:
"resulted in the reduction of the minimum fuel RON requirement"
"Volkswagen now recommends a minimum 95RON"
"New MIN RON#"
"Old MIN RON#"

And from the inside of your fuel caps:
"min. 95 RON/ROZ Super Premium"

So whether used with the word "recommended" or "requirement" or no other word at all, what is present in all of these is the word minimum - and that is the key to this. Volkswagen have advised of a minimum octane fuel to use, it is then up to consumers to decide whether they want to use that minimum or anything better.

So like you do Murphy, I would chose to use the best quality fuel available, which in Australia just happens to come with an octane bump to 98

[entice]

yes, VW say Min 95, but also in their manual they state NO benefit in engine performance or economy by going to 98...

[Corey_R]

That's correct (as I've already said numerous times as well). That is not to say there is no benefit in other aspects due our fuel regulations and manufacturing processes in Australia.

[GTI mk6]

We do kinda agree. The problem is not semantics though. The problem is that too many people seem to be "reading what they want to" and missing the key word which is present in all the statements.

Coreying, I totally agree and get the point you are and have been making....yes 95 RON is the recommended minimum according
to journo's. and VW literature.
I may have interpreted what Maverick said wrong.....

They have put the incorrect stickers on a batch of GTI's by the looks of it as 95 has never been recommended for the GTI
I just wanted to share what their literature was saying based on Maverick saying that 95 has never been recommended for GTI
Certainly not intended to undermine Maverick here

Maybe if VW worded things differently eg. 95 RON minimum requirement but 98 RON highly recommended we wouldnt all be debating this.
Like Murphy, I think we are possibly all on the same page, we just have different ways of expressing it?
The good news at least is that we all "clearly" agree about using 98 RON hehe

[MurphyTheElf]

Let's just say the old sticker "98 (95)" was much clearer. That says to me "fill with 98, but 95 is fine if you can't find anything else". Maybe a recall is in order?

[Corey_R]

Hehehe... maybe they changed it because overseas they're now getting 99 and 100 and even higher octanes... so just having "Min 95" becomes clearer then instaed of saying "104,100,99,98 (95)"

[Maverick]

Coreying, I totally agree and get the point you are and have been making....yes 95 RON is the recommended minimum according
to journo's. and VW literature.
I may have interpreted what Maverick said wrong.....

Most likely as this whole thread is going round and round in circles!

They have put the incorrect stickers on a batch of GTI's by the looks of it as 95 has never been recommended for the GTI
I just wanted to share what their literature was saying based on Maverick saying that 95 has never been recommended for GTI
Certainly not intended to undermine Maverick here

Volkswagen released the fuel recommendation update last year, this is a chart of the current and new recommendation.



Here's another link - Volkswagen Petrol Engines Deliver Power and Economy on 95RON Fuel - AutoWeb News and another - Volkswagen Petrol Engines Deliver Power and Economy on 95RON Fuel - (Australia)

So as far as I can see the recommended fuel is 98 for the GTI but it _can_ run on 95 as a minimum but at reduced power/torque however the brochures on the website and the fuel filler cap don't seem to fall into line with other countries or other documentation from Volkswagen.

Maybe if VW worded things differently eg. 95 RON minimum requirement but 98 RON highly recommended we wouldnt all be debating this.
Like Murphy, I think we are possibly all on the same page, we just have different ways of expressing it?
The good news at least is that we all "clearly" agree about using 98 RON hehe

Agreed, I think someone at Volkswagen has screwed up somewhere along the line with the fuel filler labeling and the brochure was probably a marketing person getting confused with big numbers!

[hooba]

Having worked in a petrol station (for one of the reputable brands) for many years and having experienced how the tanks are filled, I would always use 98 given the preference as it gives you a greater margin for error.

It is not uncommon for a tanker driver doing a delivery at 3am to accidentally put unleaded into the 95 tank - we once discovered this the following afternoon when we did the dips and the numbers didn't add up. Another time we switched pumps over, and there was still a fair bit of unleaded in the tanks which they topped up with Premium - this was ok because it was "within spec". All of these things do happen even on a well managed site - the boss in this case was a good operator who worried about the Premium fuels because they went into his beloved BMW.

The point I'm trying to make is that there is a chance that you may one day think you are filling up with 95 octane, but the octane actually going into your tank may be marginally less than that. If this happens, you are better off already having 98 octane in your fuel tank in order to get the overall octane back up above 95.

My 5 cents worth.