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cktsi The Official Mk6 Golf DSG... 13-06-2010, 11:22 PM
Brian Hi CK, Just did over 5000ks... 15-06-2010, 12:46 AM
logger No it wont be. Fair chance it... 15-06-2010, 10:21 AM
golftsi Logger Can you shed some... 15-06-2010, 05:31 PM
Brian Thanks Logger, now that I... 15-06-2010, 06:43 PM
cktsi Looks like vw finally know... 30-08-2011, 11:46 PM
Corey_R Thanks for the update cktsi 31-08-2011, 08:58 AM
ozgti Mine was replaced at 30k kms... 31-08-2011, 09:38 AM
Corey_R ozgti, do you know if they... 31-08-2011, 09:51 AM
ozgti Don't know. They just said... 31-08-2011, 10:06 AM
Jonny 5 118 TSI DSG Clutch Shudder 19-09-2011, 07:13 PM
obadvw i have Jetta mk5 2010 model... 21-04-2012, 11:22 PM
ctan Brought my vehicle in for 60K... 18-06-2012, 03:45 PM
shaguar Hi there, Don't know if... 07-07-2012, 02:22 PM
Artie DSG Clutch Shudder...... 05-09-2012, 11:23 AM
Ozram Thanks for the info cktsi. ... 31-08-2011, 07:50 PM
mr gee I reported a clutch judder at... 31-08-2011, 08:44 PM
Alok Is this issue intermittent... 01-09-2011, 10:13 AM
svwnath I had this issue going on... 23-05-2012, 08:13 PM
Artie I wrote to the VW General... 26-05-2012, 09:39 AM
TheGee Yep, I thought VW was in the... 27-05-2012, 10:03 PM
RODEO DSG Shudder 04-06-2012, 05:32 PM
DrDanyG My 2009 Golf 118TSi has had... 11-03-2012, 10:30 AM
Bayman Seems the Golf VI 118TSI with... 18-03-2012, 09:01 PM
regu I have had all the same... 19-03-2012, 08:05 AM
golftsi I had a similar issue at only... 15-06-2010, 05:23 PM
RW1 Bulletin 2026097/1 issued... 09-09-2011, 05:59 AM
Alok That's exactly my issue too.... 09-09-2011, 11:35 AM
skindoggy33 mk6 golf 2nd gear shudder 10-09-2011, 08:30 PM
Alok The service guy lied to you.... 11-09-2011, 02:57 PM
MIRSAD Hi, On my daughters 90TSI... 11-09-2011, 03:43 PM
Mountainman Glad I bought the manual.... 12-09-2011, 08:55 AM
MIRSAD Sorry - 22,000KM:confused: 12-09-2011, 09:01 AM
Jonny 5 Hi Nick Ive had mine 18... 19-09-2011, 07:35 PM
dood shudder on passat DSG? 20-09-2011, 09:14 AM
Jonny 5 I believe that they are the... 22-09-2011, 09:09 PM
Lams do you guys notice it slips... 23-09-2011, 10:52 AM
CrimDub My 118tsi had this problem,... 14-09-2011, 06:07 PM
Ryan_R When did you first have the... 14-09-2011, 06:26 PM
hentaiboy First experienced the shudder... 15-09-2011, 10:20 AM
Ryan_R You could ring up just to let... 15-09-2011, 10:22 AM
McDub DSG "shudder" 16-09-2011, 06:45 PM
Ozram If you'd have searched you'd... 16-09-2011, 07:03 PM
McDub thanks i'll have a read of... 16-09-2011, 07:14 PM
VW tech 7 speed DSG shuddering 16-09-2011, 09:01 PM
hentaiboy Booked in for Wednesday.... 19-09-2011, 11:37 AM
Ozram Does yours take off from... 16-09-2011, 09:44 PM
Susan Clutch Replacement 2 weeks... 18-09-2011, 02:10 AM
CrimDub :( I spoke to soon! I now... 18-09-2011, 08:25 AM
Ryan_R I think that sums it up for... 18-09-2011, 08:37 AM
buzuki Dont be alarmed, the 'clutch... 23-09-2011, 05:31 PM
rockDAhouse Mine has developed this... 03-12-2011, 06:51 PM
Ozram Just got back from a trip up... 04-12-2011, 11:57 AM
Ryan_R Good to hear. 04-12-2011, 12:25 PM
thewafflecaust Has anyone ever had a loud... 07-12-2011, 04:15 PM
rockDAhouse Mine one is booked in for... 09-12-2011, 05:33 PM
regu AAAAHHHHHH, Now today I... 13-12-2011, 05:33 PM
Bel 3rd time in for the... 14-12-2011, 11:03 AM
rockDAhouse I have send my car in for a... 15-12-2011, 06:27 PM
grtuned The 5051 is the machine used... 15-12-2011, 06:52 PM
RW1 Bulletin has just gone to... 15-12-2011, 08:25 PM
rockDAhouse thanks for that RW1, where... 15-12-2011, 08:40 PM
RW1 Dealer's Service Desk screen... 16-12-2011, 09:44 AM
Creniac Hi Guys, I can to relate to... 15-12-2011, 09:20 PM
Bel Thanks Creniac for the... 15-12-2011, 10:50 PM
ozgti My dsg died this morning.... 20-02-2012, 10:06 AM
omgolf sorry to hear that mate :( I... 20-02-2012, 10:12 AM
ozgti That's how mine started I... 20-02-2012, 11:10 AM
mythik Ozram, I call dibbs on... 20-02-2012, 08:42 PM
Ozram LOL!!! OK then. Chuckling... 20-02-2012, 09:04 PM
gavs Mate, there is nothing... 11-03-2012, 10:53 AM
Mountainman Your first and second... 11-03-2012, 01:08 PM
Ryan_R Well, as TopGear say, you... 11-03-2012, 01:26 PM
gavs How so? I work every day with... 11-03-2012, 05:54 PM
Syd118TSI Plenty of Japanese cars with... 11-03-2012, 07:23 PM
DoggieHowser Complementary firmware update... 19-03-2012, 12:30 AM
Umai Naa!! If there was, you'd have a... 19-03-2012, 06:43 PM
the_winner the stupid noise from the... 20-03-2012, 02:59 AM
Alok There are many people here... 20-03-2012, 10:21 AM
Brian With 2 and a half years and... 20-03-2012, 10:05 PM
DoggieHowser I'm not in the country now... 19-03-2012, 07:39 PM
obadvw I went to the dealer... 03-05-2012, 06:06 AM
Ryan_R How come you guys can get the... 03-05-2012, 09:11 AM
Bel Took me 3 trips to the dealer... 03-05-2012, 04:27 PM
Artie I am the latest person by the... 08-05-2012, 10:04 AM
the_winner YES YES!!! I wrote this at... 08-05-2012, 07:48 AM
Ryan_R Got any codes or reference... 08-05-2012, 08:49 AM
obadvw so is that part no. is the... 10-05-2012, 12:10 AM
the_winner yes this is the new clutch... 10-05-2012, 07:18 AM
the_winner A friend send me a foto from... 29-05-2012, 07:40 AM
buzuki its because majority of the 7... 29-05-2012, 05:32 PM
Ryan_R New clutch pack has been... 29-05-2012, 06:29 PM
Rawcpoppa Thanks. Your English is... 09-05-2012, 08:57 AM
VeedubTSI I've been experiencing the... 09-05-2012, 01:55 PM
Rawcpoppa Those four digit codes that... 31-05-2012, 12:30 AM
RW1 They are rest of the world... 31-05-2012, 02:51 AM
Rawcpoppa Ok thanks Sent from my... 31-05-2012, 09:30 AM
Rawcpoppa Have you guys read about VW... 31-05-2012, 08:36 PM
Ryan_R http://www.vwwatercooled.org.a... 31-05-2012, 09:04 PM
gonsped I attended the VW Driving... 03-06-2012, 11:19 AM
Ryan_R Hope the Mk7 doesn't have... 03-06-2012, 01:02 PM
noone There seem to be an amazing... 25-06-2012, 09:36 AM
Ryan_R It's mainly just early DSG7... 25-06-2012, 09:50 AM
Ozram I don't think my 118 wanted... 25-06-2012, 05:54 PM
Ryan_R Awww, maybe a good thing it... 25-06-2012, 06:30 PM
omgolf oh the MY12.5 GTI has LED... 01-07-2012, 12:11 AM
jc29 I think i'm in the same boat... 01-07-2012, 05:38 PM
Ozram Could be a clutch pack. Take... 01-07-2012, 07:48 PM
sammy79 Got my car back after the... 03-07-2012, 08:09 PM
warped_foobie Take it back and show them?... 03-07-2012, 09:02 PM
omgolf if the clutch has been... 04-07-2012, 12:10 AM
Rawcpoppa Nope. You guys need to start... 15-07-2012, 05:21 AM
cktsi I think my saga is over!!! I... 20-07-2012, 02:18 PM
Ryan_R Keep us posted, but 2 days... 20-07-2012, 02:41 PM
cktsi Very true. However, the 1st... 20-07-2012, 03:07 PM
Rawcpoppa Sigh...only 8000km and the... 11-08-2012, 12:52 PM
rockDAhouse car get fixed again, clutch... 11-08-2012, 01:46 PM
gavs Contact the ACCC, they are... 20-08-2012, 09:55 AM
bluefin321 Just an idea, but why don't... 20-08-2012, 10:27 AM
djbazzab Bluefin might be on to... 20-08-2012, 10:33 AM
bluefin321 @djbazzab it's like were... 20-08-2012, 10:54 AM
Bel I'd be keen - let me know... 20-08-2012, 11:06 AM
Stelex I think you'll find that you... 20-08-2012, 11:28 AM
prise Service Campaign 37G7 - new... 25-08-2012, 07:50 AM
gavs That's because the dsg has... 25-08-2012, 07:59 AM
Candyman I got me some of that 37g7... 25-08-2012, 08:05 AM
Lucas_R Haha well done!! 26-08-2012, 10:11 PM
prise So you believe the... 26-08-2012, 05:00 PM
Ryan_R More likely that the lack of... 26-08-2012, 06:09 PM
Bel Have to say that mine is also... 26-08-2012, 07:38 PM
prise I don't think gavs is right... 30-08-2012, 04:48 PM
Ryan_R How steep is the decline?... 30-08-2012, 04:54 PM
Ryan_R Yes, I've had 37G7 for a few... 25-08-2012, 08:31 AM
Rawcpoppa Your dsg is different from... 23-09-2012, 03:21 AM
gecko2k I know mate, the only thing I... 23-09-2012, 06:36 AM
Rawcpoppa My bad. Wasn't trying to run... 23-09-2012, 03:16 PM
gecko2k No offence taken. I'll have... 24-09-2012, 04:39 PM
zoomda Mine goes in on Tuesday for a... 29-09-2012, 02:55 PM
gavs Golf 7 Speed DSG shudder /... 27-11-2012, 10:19 AM
Ryan_R What's the news with your... 27-11-2012, 10:27 AM
cktsi Interesting point. Can't go... 27-11-2012, 10:50 AM
gavs Golf 7 Speed DSG shudder /... 27-11-2012, 02:35 PM
Ryan_R Plus you get 1 year warranty... 27-11-2012, 03:22 PM
gavs Golf 7 Speed DSG shudder /... 27-11-2012, 05:03 PM
Ryan_R The service guys at Burwin... 27-11-2012, 06:28 PM
Rawcpoppa Golf 7 Speed DSG shudder /... 30-11-2012, 03:46 PM
kinhung oil temp. over / around 90C... 30-11-2012, 05:43 PM
kaktusdigital I'm gonna get the DSG tune... 30-11-2012, 06:08 PM
kinhung Good Luck~ You can check the... 30-11-2012, 06:23 PM
kaktusdigital Cheers, but I meant the HP... 30-11-2012, 07:21 PM
Rawcpoppa Golf 7 Speed DSG shudder /... 06-12-2012, 04:14 AM
Ryan_R Doesn't really compare to... 06-12-2012, 06:10 AM
kaktusdigital well so much for no more... 06-12-2012, 07:02 AM
Ryan_R Software is tied to your VIN... 06-12-2012, 08:21 AM
kaktusdigital ah thanks, that's good to... 06-12-2012, 08:46 AM
cktsi Was that takeoff from stand... 06-12-2012, 02:19 PM
Rawcpoppa Golf 7 Speed DSG shudder /... 07-12-2012, 12:26 AM
kaktusdigital It certainly feels that way. ... 07-12-2012, 08:01 AM
cktsi More power is available when... 07-12-2012, 08:15 AM
kaktusdigital I wonder if the supposed 2012... 07-12-2012, 08:35 AM
Allegiance Whilst mine is a 6 speed,... 07-12-2012, 09:22 AM
kaktusdigital On a R? gee I thought the... 07-12-2012, 11:17 AM
Rawcpoppa Golf 7 Speed DSG shudder /... 07-12-2012, 12:43 PM
Mr T. So as I understand it, a... 07-01-2013, 10:11 PM
Ryan_R I think it's more the... 07-01-2013, 10:22 PM
Rawcpoppa Golf 7 Speed DSG shudder /... 08-01-2013, 08:55 AM
kaktusdigital So a quick update: Went to... 15-01-2013, 04:54 PM
Ryan_R Good to hear, they really are... 15-01-2013, 05:58 PM
CNBLU Booked the car in for a new... 15-01-2013, 09:47 PM
cktsi If you can, until you get the... 19-01-2013, 08:04 AM
kinhung Hi, is the shudder in the... 26-01-2013, 08:34 PM
omgolf Think so - a friend of mine... 26-01-2013, 09:06 PM
cktsi Yes definitely! Dont want to... 27-01-2013, 06:40 AM
Rawcpoppa Golf 7 Speed DSG shudder /... 26-01-2013, 09:31 PM
Ryan_R Doesn't help in peak hour... 27-01-2013, 06:20 AM
Cavill would one really want to... 30-01-2013, 12:36 PM
Allegiance Golf 7 Speed DSG shudder /... 13-02-2013, 09:02 PM
cktsi My recollection in my travels... 13-02-2013, 09:11 PM
Ryan_R The DSG's biggest enemy in my... 13-02-2013, 09:15 PM
cktsi True. I will admit these days... 14-02-2013, 07:44 AM
CNBLU New clutch pack and software... 14-02-2013, 05:24 PM
Rawcpoppa Golf 7 Speed DSG shudder /... 20-02-2013, 08:31 PM
Ryan_R If you can drive in Sport... 20-02-2013, 08:50 PM
kaktusdigital Hi Ryan, Have you had any... 21-02-2013, 06:02 AM
Ryan_R Yes, but it could be an... 21-02-2013, 06:22 AM
kaktusdigital Ah ic. Seeing that you got... 21-02-2013, 07:12 AM
Bel Reviving an old thread...... 04-03-2014, 08:20 PM
AdamD Don't worry Bel - the 6-speed... 05-03-2014, 08:16 AM
Bel Haha thanks Adam, my thoughts... 05-03-2014, 10:24 AM
zardoz I've got a shudder on my... 05-03-2014, 11:32 PM
zoomda There's been a recall on some... 06-03-2014, 12:18 PM
zardoz If VW had a GTI wagon, I'd be... 15-03-2014, 01:28 AM
boatinthesea That's exact what I have on... 06-03-2014, 10:10 PM
Bel Not sure who you were... 07-03-2014, 06:22 AM
mitch750 Just wanted to add that my... 11-03-2014, 08:16 PM
regu Mitch, The part should have... 14-03-2014, 08:39 AM
ziggyboy My clutch pack was replaced... 13-03-2014, 11:38 PM
Rawcpoppa I'm surprised you still have... 14-03-2014, 12:15 AM
ziggyboy So am I. LOL. Bad timing.... 14-03-2014, 10:46 AM
Rawcpoppa Sorry man. I feel your pain.... 14-03-2014, 10:53 AM
ziggyboy So your car has never... 17-03-2014, 11:32 AM
Rawcpoppa I have experienced judder.... 17-03-2014, 11:47 AM
ziggyboy Yeah, this proves that the... 17-03-2014, 02:10 PM
UKV Please take a look at... 17-03-2014, 04:03 PM
redhot Thought my experience might... 03-07-2016, 08:18 PM
Rawcpoppa I'm happy for you. That... 05-07-2016, 12:51 AM
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zardoz Had the clutch pack... 01-04-2014, 06:22 PM
VWisVW hi all, im too experiencing... 30-04-2014, 12:26 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by logger View Post
    If it was my car I would just reset the clutch adaptations to back to basic settings with my VCDS. then let it adapt form scratch again.
    Logger

    Can you shed some light on how to reset the clutch adaptations? I'm assuming this is what the dealer did. I've got VCDS & a vagcom cable so I can do it myself. Would be handy to know if it occurs again.

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    But as you don't have VCDS, drive it around in manual mode a for a while.
    Thanks Logger, now that I think about it I haven't had any problems since I ran the car in manual mode for a few days. The Mechatronics may have reset itself as per your diagnostics.
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    Looks like vw finally know what the issue is. I took my car in 2weeks ago as the shudder has become worse.

    They said that they have seen and fixed quite a few golf 6 with DSG 7. Apparently it is something to do with a faulty shim. Not sure what the shim is, but sounds like it guides the clutch plates.

    Sometimes they warp and create uneven contact... And hence the shuddering.

    The fix? They had to go through the standard diagnostic procedure of replacing the mechatronics, even though the service centre knew that was not the cause.

    After replacing the mechatronics the issue is still there. So now they can concentrate on the real fix.

    They will replace the clutches. The clutch for the even gears is now slipping when i put the boot in after 2000rpm in any even gear. So they're pretty worn out.

    They will also replace the shim.

    Hopefully they fix the issue. I will see when i pick up the car tomorrow.

    I thought to post this as a record for anyone else out there who may have this issue, but are being given the run around. After a change in personnel at my dealer, they obviously now have more knowledgeable staff who not only will acknowledge the issue but also know how to fix it.
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    Thanks for the update cktsi

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    Quote Originally Posted by cktsi View Post
    Looks like vw finally know what the issue is. I took my car in 2weeks ago as the shudder has become worse.

    They said that they have seen and fixed quite a few golf 6 with DSG 7. Apparently it is something to do with a faulty shim. Not sure what the shim is, but sounds like it guides the clutch plates.

    Sometimes they warp and create uneven contact... And hence the shuddering.

    The fix? They had to go through the standard diagnostic procedure of replacing the mechatronics, even though the service centre knew that was not the cause.

    After replacing the mechatronics the issue is still there. So now they can concentrate on the real fix.

    They will replace the clutches. The clutch for the even gears is now slipping when i put the boot in after 2000rpm in any even gear. So they're pretty worn out.

    They will also replace the shim.

    Hopefully they fix the issue. I will see when i pick up the car tomorrow.

    I thought to post this as a record for anyone else out there who may have this issue, but are being given the run around. After a change in personnel at my dealer, they obviously now have more knowledgeable staff who not only will acknowledge the issue but also know how to fix it.
    Mine was replaced at 30k kms after bitching and moaning for the past 15,000 kms! The shuddering was absolutely shocking. You couldn't drive it without it shuddering unless you had 3 people in the car. Took a techie for a drive, as soon as I pulled out of the car spot, it shuddered. Techie said that's the worst he's ever experienced. They replaced the clutch packs without replacing the mechatronics, so that was a surprise to me. Took about 4 days to do.

    So far, all is good, no shuddering.

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    ozgti, do you know if they replaced this "shim" along with the clutch packs? Or was yours just the clutch packs?

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    Don't know. They just said the clutch packs. I'll have a look, but I don't think the shim even existed it was that bad!!!

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    I have the same thing happening.. probably for the past month or so. Have had my 15k service since then and they reset the DSG... hasn't helped. I just haven't had time to actually do anything about it yet - glad that there is fix out there though.
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    118 TSI DSG Clutch Shudder

    I am also experiencing the clutch shudder in my Golf 118 TSI 7 speed DSG. It appears to happen in second gear when in ‘D’ mode, seems ok in ’S’ mode. I took it back to VW who did lots of tests. The outcome is that they agreed to change the clutch. However since they had it ‘D’ mode is much more aggressive than before and the gear changes are quite rough. I guess the gearbox is configurable. I hope they set it back to its usual smoothness when they change the clutch

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    i have Jetta mk5 2010 model with 1.6L engine and DSG7, i am @20000km and i start feeling the judder pulling out of corners or intersections

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