MT vs DSG survey

[trueman]

Can anyone who has a MT GTI and regrets not getting a DSG please post and conversly those who have a DSG GTI and regrets not getting a MT.
Please see other MT DSG Thread

[noone]

I don't think you are going to get many responses in here.
Try the Mk 5 or Mk 6 sections, you can create a poll if you are feeling creative.

[trueman]

yes just realised thanks

[trueman]

Can anyone who has a MT GTI and regrets not getting a DSG please post and conversly those who have a DSG GTI and regrets not getting a MT. Just out of interest as just reading a thread on golfmk6.com
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[trueman]

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3607

[Corey_R]

I had a Golf GTI MKV with DSG and never regreted not having a manual.

I have a Polo GTI right now and regret not having a DSG

[Guy_H]

My MKVI is a manual, very happy with it. My MKV was a manual as well. The MKVI gearchanges & control feel is all better than the MKV.

When our Golf R gets here, I'm very tempted to get a DSG gearbox - just for fun

[MurphyTheElf]

I love having the DSG for plodding along in the city and for peak hour. The changes are very quick and the exhaust fart sounds just awesome. Paddle downshifts are especially nice.

However, I do sometimes wish for the control of a manual. The DSG will never replace that. If you flatten the accelerator, it will kick down regardless of the selected mode. Changing between reverse and drive is obviously slower. When traction control kicks in, the DSG will often change up to negate wheelspin, however, it quickly changes down again when traction is regained. Effective but a little disconcerting - especially in paddle shift mode. And of course the much-maligned pause before acceleration at standstill. In my opinion this is the biggest pitfall and I really wish it could be overcome. Acceleration is probably still faster than most people could manage in a manual, but I honestly feel that the pause costs me precious seconds.

Meh, the grass is always greener on the other side.

If you're a real world driver, go the DSG. If you're a track warrior or a control freak, then go the manual.

[windmagnet]

Having had my Mk6 GTI with DSG for about 5 months, I thought I would share my thoughts on the DSG. I will try to give an unbiased view.

My primary vehicle has been a manual for the last 15 years. Have also regularly driven lower end autos which have all been very ordinary to drive.

I decided to go for DSG because I thought it would be fun, interesting and it offered the best of both worlds.

So far, I have had the following experiences:

D is great for poodling around town and low fuel consumption but it shifts through the gears much too quickly if you are wanting to wind up the revs and have a bit of a squirt.

Sport is fantastic for a bit of hard driving on windy country roads but it is a bit too far to the other extreme for use around town, even if you are wanting to have a bit of fun.

Manual with the paddle shifters is my favourite way to go. The only minor issue I have had is that when the car is cold the change from first to second can be a bit abrupt. This usually only affects the first shift of the day and after that it is fine.

I have not had any problems with slow engagement of the gears or hesitation/stalling on take off from lights. DSG seems to work fine taking off on flat and on slopes in any direction. I do sometimes notice a tiny delay if coming to a stop (when the gearbox has moved into neutral) and then seeking to accelerate before completely stopping. However, this is only noticeable with hesitant/gentle acceleration. If you accelerate a bit harder it does not seem to be an issue.

Shifts are definitely faster than I could make manually. The exhaust thwarp on each shift is nice.

I do sometimes miss the manual and agree that it is probably more involving for general driving, but there is nothing numb or uninvolved about pushing along a windy road using the paddles in manual mode.

I think the future is clear. Manual wll disappear from most new cars. If Ferarri have dropped it for a number of their models, it is only a matter of time before it is gone. This is a bad thing but the market will rule. If people like me are happy to drive DSG, then those that want manual will become a tiny minority forced to run classics or to buy basic cars or very expensive cars made by low volume manufacturers.

[Corey_R]

Yeah windmagnet, those are basically my feelings too. From this day forward I will always prefer a DSG type gearbox over manual and both of them heavily over an auto. I can't stand autos, but I love the DSG for all the reasons you mentioned and more