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    Quote Originally Posted by coreying View Post
    Peoples who hate auto's can be satisfied (as long as you don't have some unhealthy attachment to the clutch pedal ),
    not satisfied here. worst thing vw did by not having the manual option in the jetta tsi.
    maybe coz mine is stuffed i will feel differently about it after repair... but the polo GTI gearbox is just soooooooooo nice...
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    Just took a new GTI DSG for a burn and am absolutely convinced this is the way to go - I have the biggest smile on my face
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave8878 View Post
    Just took a new GTI DSG for a burn and am absolutely convinced this is the way to go - I have the biggest smile on my face
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    The GTI was at the top of our list due to the DSG, and the fact that my wife only drives auto. I love manuals, so this is the best compromise we could come up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blutopless2 View Post
    not satisfied here. worst thing vw did by not having the manual option in the jetta tsi.
    maybe coz mine is stuffed i will feel differently about it after repair... but the polo GTI gearbox is just soooooooooo nice...
    Couldn't disagree more, DSG in my Jetta was terrific. Interesting the comment on the Pog box, lost count of the threads have there been complaining about problems with these boxes.

    To the OP, at the end of the day, it's a simple choice, do you want a manual or an auto?


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    I've just come from a manual Skyline, and I've disliked automatics with a passion as generally they're incredibly boring to drive. After a few days test driving the MK6 with a DSG, I was sold. Picking up my GTI with DSG in a day or so!
    As someone else mentioned - for real world driving, you cant go past it. Performance wise there is no real benefit, so it's only personal gratification (or cost saving! ) which would turn someone to the manual in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VW Convert View Post
    To the OP, at the end of the day, it's a simple choice, do you want a manual or an auto?
    I agree... my original plan was to get a manual, did my first test drive in a manual and was happy with it. Decided to come back a week later and try the DSG just out of interest and was unexpectedly impressed, in fact so impressed that I ended up getting DSG.

    In the end it's gonna be a fun car to drive either way... just gotta make your choice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VW Convert View Post
    To the OP, at the end of the day, it's a simple choice, do you want a manual or an auto?
    Hmm - I still view the DSG as a manual - just one without a user operated clutch
    I mean, would you call the gearbox in an F1 or Indycar an 'auto' just cause they don't use a clutch pedal?

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    I guess it could be argued either way. Does the "manual" refer to either:

    "You manually choose when to change gears, rather than the car automatically choosing for you".

    OR

    "The process of changing gears is a manual one involving your hands and feet, rather than the car automatically changing gears without any physical interaction"

    Personally I think "Semi-automatic" is a reasonable term (even though its not official or widely used). You can manually make the decision with the DSG, and some manual physical effort is required (tap a paddle)... but the actual clutch movement is handled automatically by the car.

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    Axis - I think you forgot about the mechanical perspective.
    An 'automatic gearbox' is one with a torque converter in it. A manual gearbox uses clutches.

    A DSG is literally two manual gearboxes integrated into the one unit. Because humans don't have three feet, and therefore couldn't reasonably be expected to operate two clutch pedals, the gearboxes mechatronics takes care of operating those two clutches for you.

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