MT vs DSG survey

[bigmouthmedia]

It's the first time I've used DSG - and while it's a bit unusual and different to the Mazda3 I came out of and had instant acceleration, once you train yourself in the fine art of slightly hitting the accelerator after the brake, it's a good unit - plus it helps with manual tiptronics.

[Corey_R]

*sigh* Yes, I've read the manual. Yes, I'm aware of the switch. I don't think it needs to be there. If you push the shifter to the left, it should be fully manual. Apart from stall prevention, that is.

In the heat of the moment, subtlety is easier said than done. I'm a foot-masher. Hey, I didn't say I was a great driver.

Hehehe - yeah, I hear ya! I actually read the manual, and in all the 'new Euro things' I found inside, I missed the bit about the switch, until I came here. But then I didnt' have the car for much longer and never really got to get used to the 'switch'. Oh well.

[blutopless2]

just a query here.....

the ability to disconnect it's clutches when no engine effort is required. This occurs when the brake pedal is depressed (e.g. at stop light) and also when driving on a straight road when no pedal input is detected. When braking the clutches do not disengage unless the car is at a complete standstill.

The fuel injectors are also cut when no pedal input is detected also saving fuel. It is easy to see when you have the "instantaneous" fuel consumption figure in your MFD showing - it will be 0.0 when you take your foot off the pedal whilst moving.

If these two things happen at the same time... clutches disengage effectively putting it in neutral AND fuel injectors cut....
wouldn't the engine stall???

[Corey_R]

Yeah - when I read that at first I got all confused over it too. I guess it depends on terminology (which I'm not particularly sure what it is). Like when you put your foot on the clutch pedal, is that engaging the clutch, or disengaging it?

Anyway, I think what he means is that the DSG, unlike an auto, can do the same thing that a person driving a manual can. If the car is in gear, and foot isn't on the clutch pedal, and you're 'coasting', as long as the revs are high enough the fuel supply can be turned off because the motion of the car is enough to turn over the engine, thus using 0 fuel.

[MurphyTheElf]

The live fuel economy meter supports this. If you lift your foot off the accelerator when moving forwards, the economy drops to 0.0l/100km. The engine is being turned over by momentum. At standstill, however, the meter changes from l/100km to l/hour - fuel is again being used to keep the engine running.

[mfl]

Happy with the MT - even if 80% of my driving inner Sydney peak hour.

wouldn't swap for a DSG.

[elisiX]

If you're a real world driver, go the DSG. If you're a track warrior or a control freak, then go the manual.

+1

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[trueman]

Always a hard choice by the feedback here and other forums.
Drove the s3 sportback today (dsg)
Awesome car. Great using paddles. Bloody expesive though 74K demo!! they are dreaming.
Guess I'll stick with DSG ..GTI.... now CW or TR damn....

[flappa]

Simple decision. Wife wanted an Auto. Wife gets what she wants . . . well sort of . . . DSG

[Corey_R]

Simple decision. Wife wanted an Auto. Wife gets what she wants . . . well sort of . . . DSG

That's one of the best things about the DSG. Peoples who hate auto's can be satisfied (as long as you don't have some unhealthy attachment to the clutch pedal ), and yet people who can't drive a manual can still drive it as an 'auto'