MKVI GTI ECU Upgrade...Which is Best?

[fuzion]

Guy can probably clarify but based on his post in this thread http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newf...ad.php?t=41008
It looks as though they are removing the ECU and bench flashing it on mk6 GTIs as well. Im not aware of a company that can flash the new ECUs direct though the diagnostics port.
I could be wrong though? depends on what sort of plug is on the end of the cable i guess?

pretty much spot on dude..

either way at the end of the day, its WHO you choose and WHO you want to go with.

opinions are opinions, go with who you think is best for you and who is closest.

[Guy_H]

Depending on build date, the method will vary! VW is retrospectively re-flashing 1024 bit encryption onto earlier build cars. All 15 APR dealers now have the new tools to do all models regardless of build date.

As far as i know there have only been two MKVI's on dyno's around the country, mine & Derek's (from European Autotech www.europeanautotech.com.au).

Since you are in NSW, pop in & see Derek & you can see his own MKVI demo car.

Look for some pictures shortly of our MKVI buildup!

Also when looking at dyno plots, look at the power curves, and more importantly, the torque curves. It's not peak numbers you should concentrate on

[iBoost]

Thanks for the info Guy. I'll definitely drop in and see Derek, unfortunately I won't have the car until June though.

[HereGoes]

Bugger no Blufin any more...

I just wanted a little bit of extra grunt to play with and i could justify $1,000 doing it but now you are talk almost double that for APR plus the risks with new car Warranty. It is fast becoming just not worth it really

[Maverick]

Bugger no Blufin any more...

I just wanted a little bit of extra grunt to play with and i could justify $1,000 doing it but now you are talk almost double that for APR plus the risks with new car Warranty. It is fast becoming just not worth it really

The benefit of the APR system is that you can switch on the fly to stock mode if the car is being serviced. Plus if the power is disconnected say after an accident or an electrical problem the car is back in stock mode with no way to tell that it's been flashed unless you enter the code (optional feature).

[KWICKS]

Since you are in NSW, pop in & see Derek & you can see his own MKVI demo car.

I spotted it on the road the other day heading up Mona Vale Road at 5:30pm-ish. Looks flashy.

[Corey_R]

Depending on build date, the method will vary! VW is retrospectively re-flashing 1024 bit encryption onto earlier build cars. All 15 APR dealers now have the new tools to do all models regardless of build date.

The benefit of the APR system is that you can switch on the fly to stock mode if the car is being serviced. Plus if the power is disconnected say after an accident or an electrical problem the car is back in stock mode with no way to tell that it's been flashed unless you enter the code (optional feature).

But now that these new VW's (and older cars depending on whether VW have 'retrospectively re-flashed with 1024 bit encryption') need to have the ECU physically removed to be flashed on a bench with the new APR equipment, is there actually any point to the 'security lock out' feature of the APR? Like if the dealers can tell the flash has been done just by looking at the screens on the ECU module/cover ?!

[Lima]

"MKVI GTI ECU Upgrade...Which is Best?"

GIAC is best.

I read it on the internet.

[Tim]

"MKVI GTI ECU Upgrade...Which is Best?"

GIAC is best.

I read it on the internet.

haha i know youre takin the piss but GIAC hasnt even released their MK6 GTI upgrade yet. As usual they arent first to the market but as you say im sure they will be the best

[Qikas]

..is there actually any point to the 'security lock out' feature of the APR? Like if the dealers can tell the flash has been done just by looking at the screens on the ECU module/cover ?!

A security lock-out feature could make it easier to spot, maybe more so than tell-tale signs the ECU had been removed or tampered with. If the OEM ECU numbers don’t show up on their diagnostic equip (happens with some generic maps), then that’s obvious. ...they could also hold the cruise control button for a few seconds too, just to check