New Dubber
I am definately interested in the car and according to my dealer so is 25 other people at the moment. Yes, of course this is their word but if $1,000 means i may not have to wait until July 2010 then hey I'm for it. That was actually another condition of sale, that I am only prepared to wait until Jan for delivery. If the dealer thinks the $1,000 deposit means I am going to commit to their price (considering it is not negotiable) then hey there may have been a miscommunication somewhere down the line. As you mentioned I will enter the negotiations with the intention to decline if a price is not agreed on. But yes they certainly were behaving like "they had a tight grip of my balls" when I paid my deposit. That is ok though and I Was fine with the behavior, perhaps they are just acting on past experience.Originally Posted by Lukey13
Even if a deposit is refundable, it certainly would indicate to a sales person such strong interest in a car that there would be very little room for price negotiation - why would they need to give you a good price if you're that keen.
My approach to possibly buying a Mk6 GTI is that the dealer knows that I am very cautiously awaiting pricing information in order to find out how much of a discount I can be offered. If I am unhappy with this price I don't have any qualms about ringing around other dealers (in my state and outside of it), like I did when pricing some other cars. When we bought my wife's new car earlier this year we bought it from a dealer out of town due to their pricing and availability of the stock we were after. Furthermore, if the Mk6 GTI pricing discount is not good enough, I'll be happy to look at something else with a better discount, such as an R32, or something from Audi or BMW.
I also don't care if I have to wait 6 months for the car I order to be made - there's no way I'd pay a premium to have it sooner as I've currently got a quality luxury (and sporty) sedan that is a joy to drive.
Is it just me, or does it seem that paying an early deposit is nothing more than offering the dealer a tight grip of your balls before the negotiating process has even begun?!
I like your approach regarding buying a gti. Out of all the cars I tested, civic type r, magane, clio, wrx the mkv gti was easily my favorite. I could live with a civic type R, but i would rather not. However there is still the Audi and BMW option. Also as you also mentioned, interstate and other dealers.
I dont know about others but I do definitely have a plan B if an agreed value can not be met. But in the end it comes down to the individual and what they are happy with. As we all know the end result is ownership of a quality vehicle.
How did people go when they purchased their brand new mk5 gti? I am new to VW but heard the interest in that model was also very high prior to release date.
Dubber
Same Here, and they insisted that I pay the deposit, to which I said "email me your banking details and I'll direct deposit it". I haven't done so yet (and it's been over 1 month) however I did get a call yesterday afternoon asking what options and colour I was looking for because they now have an "allocation".
They still can't provide me with an options list or timeline on availability, so the game continues........
Dubber
To be honest, I would prefer to have to wait 6 months plus for delivery, as this would give me more time with my current car which I'm very happy with anyway. As long as I can order the car before 31st December, I'll still get the 50% investment allowance with the benefit of not having to pay for ages.
New Dubber
your lucky... I am over my honda CRV and i want a new car ASAP.
Actually i found it very difficult for dealers to try and "sell" me a car. Honda told me I could test drive the type R for only 1km (because it was off the show room). Renault said they would call me back when their clio sport was available. They called when i was in the middle of something and I Asked the gentleman to call me back same time the next day but he never did. Had issues getting into a megane as well. WRX the guy stuck on me as well and didnt let me go out solo.
Best service I received so far was the VW crew. They have let me drive their Mkv on 2 occasions now and for about 1 hour each time. Good folks over there.
Volkswagen Fan
I also had similar experiences, test drove the mkv gti twice, solo and for almost an hr each time.. nps!
Volkswagenist
I don't really blame them. If you were selling a secondhand WRX as a private seller would you let a stranger take your car for test drive without you onboard to make sure they didn't abuse it by trying a "racing start" or something else equally silly ? I know I wouldn't.
Many dealerships have strict policies on when prospective purchasers are permitted to go for solo drives, which often prohibits driving more performance oriented cars with a cold engine.
2017 MY18 Golf R 7.5 Wolfsburg wagon (boring white) delivered 21 Sep 2017, 2008 Octavia vRS wagon 2.0 TFSI 6M (bright yellow), 2006 T5 Transporter van 2.5 TDI 6M (gone but not forgotten).
Volkswagen Fanatic
Just another 2c
Was at the dealer today, Mk6 GTI is apparently "around $1500 dearer" and the R20 should be about 60-61k
Volkswagenist
That's usually how it works and most salesman would think they're going to sell a car once they receive a deposit. Depends what your agreements are but should be a bit of a discount but they'll try on the waiting/lead time thing again.
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This is not the case so far. As you can see from the quote on the very first post in this thread, the MK6 is the exact same price as the MKV. The only thing is that the MK6 has some additional options which were not available on the MKV and these let you take the price much higher.
Volkswagen Fan
The dealer up here didn't have any information about the GTI at all, no dates, no prices, nothing. I did take a 118TSI for a spin though, and really didn't think much of it - why does everyone rave about that car?
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