Well it's just one opinion (ar$ehole) so doesn't matter. How can someone tell everybody that something isn't fun or good.. it's all a subjective and the forums can be a w@nk.
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Well it's just one opinion (ar$ehole) so doesn't matter. How can someone tell everybody that something isn't fun or good.. it's all a subjective and the forums can be a w@nk.
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Hardly pwnd Hooba, when you consider that the MKVI GTI has the same interior rattles. I don't need to provide the link, just do a search for a whole thread on rattles in the MKVI GTI. LOL!
No wait - let me help you - http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f112...car-35463.html
Who is pwnd now eh?
And have you seen the values for Pirelli's lately - still over $40K on average. They are holding their values better than R32s are. Isn't that right Grig?
Last edited by triode12; 04-01-2011 at 10:08 PM.
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If that is the case why are do you get so torn up about it?Originally Posted by G-rig
If it was all subjective then why did you want to ditch your GTI three weeks into ownership and admitting to me that you wanted to get the R?
The MKV provides more driver feedback than the MKVI GTI which = more fun, there is nothing subjective about that. It either is or isn't.
You must have the worst of luck having bought the mk6 GTI weeks before the R was released. Then putting up the GTI for sale to buy the R but having no bites. So you set about trying to tear down the R to make yourself feel better about it. Good one!
Last edited by triode12; 04-01-2011 at 10:09 PM.
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Hook line and sinker.If that is the case why are do you get so torn up about it?
If it was all subjective then why did you want to ditch your GTI three weeks into ownership and admitting to me that you wanted to get the R?
The MKV provides more driver feedback than the MKVI GTI which = more fun, there is nothing subjective about that. It either is or isn't.
You must have the worst of luck having bought the mk6 GTI weeks before the R was released. Then putting up the GTI for sale to buy the R but having no bites. So you set about trying to tear down the R to make yourself feel better about it. Good one!
You need a new hobby mate, besides MK6 hating. The Pirelli is hardly perfect, worse than the Golf R.
Forums are good at bringing out the best in people like you, just enjoy your MK5 and get over it buddy. I don't hate MK5's but don't see how it is sooo much more fun. All it is is a bit less sound proofing which adds more noise, but the MK6 feels more like a solid euro car as you would expect (similar to Audi).
I'm not torn up and people with their R will be seeing a heap of them on the streets so wont be anything that special.
I was selling it for different reasons and not buying an R, so get over it..
Last edited by G-rig; 04-01-2011 at 10:42 PM.
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cmon you 2.. theyre all nice cars.. even when they rattle.. or get devalued
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I agree that the R is better than the Pirelli in some ways.
Who is hating the MK6? I can't be hating the Mk6 if I am praising the R. Are you thinking logically?
I would rather be an common R owner and enjoying the drive than a mkVI GTI owner. Remember the MK4 GTIs are also quite rare (bec they were not popular) but everyone knows that they are not great performers stock.
Last edited by triode12; 04-01-2011 at 10:56 PM.
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They are all great cars, it's not a contest. I love them all can't you leave it at that?
(I also don't think the Golf R is that much better either for the extra spend, and is basically similar to the R32 stock for stock but with more lag and the exhaust/engine note isn't as good).
Last edited by G-rig; 04-01-2011 at 10:55 PM.
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I will if you stop coming to the defense of the Mk6 GTI every time a criticism is levelled at it. (like you did with the R32 when you owned it)
The MkVI GTI has faults, as does the Pirelli, as does the R and the R32 before it.
The MKVI GTI rattles on acceleration. It is a fault - admit to and not downplay it.
Let there be open discussion of the faults and praises for the cars. Stop the fanboyism.
Last edited by triode12; 04-01-2011 at 11:01 PM.
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No car is perfect as I said. I'd prefer the general build quality and more rigid chassis and traction ability of the MK6, but that's just me. The DSG and engine is very crisp, and the MK5 rattles are annoying as anything but these cars are all built to a price after all.
This is fairly blown out of proportion but good to see you are gloating about it.
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no, it doesn't. the mkvi has more precise steering with better feedback, a nicer rear end thanks to the stiffer sway and is much sweeter and easier to manage in a corner. in a mkv you really had to make sure you cleaned the car up before you went into a corner and once you'd turned in your options for adjustment were pretty much the brakes. this is much less the case with a mkvi. the ea888 is also a better engine than the 113, it's much more happy to rev and doesn't feel as 'short' as the 113 when you're going for it.If that is the case why are do you get so torn up about it?
If it was all subjective then why did you want to ditch your GTI three weeks into ownership and admitting to me that you wanted to get the R?
The MKV provides more driver feedback than the MKVI GTI which = more fun, there is nothing subjective about that. It either is or isn't.
i drove a mkv gti for 3 years and it was a fantastic car but while it was nimble the new one is a damn ballerina. yes there's more sound deadening and i think the mkv exhaust had a nicer note but when it comes to input, feedback and driveability the mkvi is better than the mkv. not by a lot but enough to notice. and of course that's before we start talking about the interior. i've driven both cars over the same roads, wet and dry, and formed my own opinion.
as far as the r goes. i'd rather wait for a model with xds as i felt the r understeered more and more often than the mkvi gti. doesn't mean it's a worse car, it just means that's how it is and that i reckon xds would make it almost unbeatable as you'd effectively have torque vectoring, awd and +-200kw. this is based only off test drives so for all i know this is something that r owners know how to drive around. if the r did come with xds i think you'd see some serious daylight between r vs gti lap times.
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