Mk6 Golf Acceleration & Performance Data

[Corey_R]

Again twisting stuff around...

I've not said it's not about mathematics - I'm saying that the mathematics that you two are using is simplistic to the point of being with such a large margin of error that you're not proving anything.

Again - stop coming in here telling people that they cannot be achieving what they are achieving. You both come across with sour grapes.

[Fab_R]

You both come across with sour grapes.

Pretty much sums these two up IMO.

[bwen]

I think it's just safe to say that the margin of error and variance on a hand held timer can differ from up to a second from brand to brand and model to model. At the end of the day a worked Golf R/S3 would pull some crazy 0-100km/h times as other AWD cars would also (see: MY11 WRX).

0-100km/h means nothing in the real world from my experience, rolling starts and 1/4 mile times yield much bigger e-peen.

[Beena]

if i read correctly...... been did testing using 0-60 as the baseline for testing.

according to his screen shots. thats not the same as 0-100km/h

for a car to reach 0-96 vs 0-100 is actually a difference.

the best way to verify its accuracy is simple. a 12 second car in most cases = a 4.x car to the 100km/h

take this stage 1 car to a drag strip and rip off a 12. even a dead 13 i would be happy with and agree that it is possible.

are there any verified time slips of any one with a stage 1 thats done a 12 or even a dead 13??? heck even a 13.1 ?????

Mate, don't know what you're reading - but it's not my post...

I've always done 0-100, my results show 0-100 and my pics show 0-100. I am aware there is a difference between 96 and 100... 5 years of a mech eng/science degree taught me that...

My numbers show the difference Fab was getting with his Gtech vs the VBOX, about 0.2s. On a moderately cool night I got 4.8 with a Stage 1 Golf. 5.36s has been proven with a stock car. I'll hit the strip when I can, but research shows these things are accurate.

[pumped]

Using a Gtech Pro Fanatic (GPS) without Launch Control so far i can get consistant 0-100 in around 5.7
I imagine 5.5ish or lower isnt out of the question with a good launch
the lag from take off is the only thing killing a really quick time.
Its Suprisingly hard to find decent road to test it out on

These times are just me in the car, 1/2 tank of fuel- At night (20 degrees)

[REXman]

Wow. 0-100 in 5.7 on the gtech without even LC!? Thats reasonably impressive.

Hey I got 5.57 with 2 people on board, on a warm night. On a GTECH of course.

I reckon by myself, on a cool night with perect road conditions.. Maybe 5.0.

I'm stock.

[MIRSAD]

People are talking about chipped and stock car.

They are talking about temperature, number of passengers, petrol level and so on and arguing about 0.02 sec.
My knowledge and experience in this area is less than zero so this is my (stupid) question:

WHAT IS STOCK?
Is it only basic model or options such as Sun roof, ACC, R/seats… and all other options are still considered STOCK (as well as aftermarket accessories even minor as window tinting, Venture Shield, new floor mats, etc) – I suppose everything is adding up.

If “factory options” & aftermarket accessories are not considered Stock – can they affect (considerably) acceleration data?

Thank You

[Corey_R]

In performance threads, when they talk about "Stock" they mean, without modification. I.e. no performance upgrades (software or hardware).

As for your question about can options and accessories affect acceleration data. Yes. The more options and accessories you have, the more weight is in your car, and that will have an effect. In addition, some accessories which are external to the car can affect aerodynamics (there isn't any on the R I can think of that fall into that category). Finally, the Golf R has an option for 18" or 19" wheels. They would also have an effect, but which one is better or worse is anyones guess (19" is lower profiel which can be detrimental to absorbing bumps, but it's also got 1cm wider rubber which gives more grip.... so ?!)

[MIRSAD]

In performance threads, when they talk about "Stock" they mean, without modification. I.e. no performance upgrades (software or hardware).

As for your question about can options and accessories affect acceleration data. Yes. The more options and accessories you have, the more weight is in your car, and that will have an effect. In addition, some accessories which are external to the car can affect aerodynamics (there isn't any on the R I can think of that fall into that category). Finally, the Golf R has an option for 18" or 19" wheels. They would also have an effect, but which one is better or worse is anyones guess (19" is lower profiel which can be detrimental to absorbing bumps, but it's also got 1cm wider rubber which gives more grip.... so ?!)

Thank You Corey

Yes, I understand that “Stock” mean without modification.

I also understand that “options and accessories affect acceleration data” but are they considered Stock (if Yes than Golf R’s with different options (accessories) have different Stock acceleration data (and subsequently different APR Stage 1 data)…
In that sense is it possible to quantify effects of 10 (or more) extra kilos (options and accessories) on acceleration data – is it significant?

[dave_r]

In that sense is it possible to quantify effects of 10 (or more) extra kilos (options and accessories) on acceleration data – is it significant?

IMO bugger all. My personal experience is the times between having one or 2 passengers (85kg or less) or even weather (all my testing has been sub 25deg) made for bugger all differences.