mk6 dealer negotiations

[flat04]

Im interested in the new GTI, and was just wondering, are Car Brokers worth it? I've never used one before - has anyone else? Will they save me that much money? Any recommendations of brokers in Adelaide? Cheers.

I have used discountnewcars.com.au to get me pricing on a MarkV before. I found I could get just as much discount by putting pressure on the VW dealers myself. Just let the dealer know you are getting pricing from the other SA dealers and they should try their hardest to get your business.

[sgiles]

I have used discountnewcars.com.au to get me pricing on a MarkV before. I found I could get just as much discount by putting pressure on the VW dealers myself. Just let the dealer know you are getting pricing from the other SA dealers and they should try their hardest to get your business.

Yeah that's what I was thinking. I live up in the hills (ie halfway between Solitaire and Duttons at Murray Bridge).

[windmagnet]

are Car Brokers worth it?

I have used David Mckay a number of times. I think he charged around $200 but that may have increased. He saved me plenty (thousands) on previous purchases but that was not for a car where demand exceeds supply.
It also was where there were multiple suppliers of the car. I don't think there is the dealer competition locally for VW.

Based on how I price my time, he was well worth it. Service has always been first class. They can also assist with some aftermarket accesssories if you are interested.

The broker can also shop interstate but I don't like your chances of getting much off the list price for a new GTI for quite a while.

[flat04]

Discountnewcars included a quote from the dealer in Mildura which was a couple of hundred cheaper than Solitaire which at the time was the only local dealer.

Mt Gambier are offering free flight, fuel and accomodation if you get one from down there so might be worth a call too.

Solitaire was like talking to a brick wall.
Muray Bridge gave the sob story about there being no margin in new cars.
Tanunda were open for discussion.

They were my own observations. You may have different luck. I would be speaking to them all and see how you go.

[sgiles]

Discountnewcars included a quote from the dealer in Mildura which was a couple of hundred cheaper than Solitaire which at the time was the only local dealer.

Mt Gambier are offering free flight, fuel and accomodation if you get one from down there so might be worth a call too.

Solitaire was like talking to a brick wall.
Muray Bridge gave the sob story about there being no margin in new cars.
Tanunda were open for discussion.

They were my own observations. You may have different luck. I would be speaking to them all and see how you go.

Ahh excellent, Ill hound all of them, if they want my business ill make them work for it. Cheers.

[nicandlance]

Actually im not sure if it comes under coporate discount to be honest. Im a member of the Electrical Trades Union (ETU) so i just need to present my membership to them and i get a certain percentage discount. Although i'm not exactly sure how much this discount equated to, 6 to 8% I think. Every dealer told me something different so who knows? I still had to bargain my ass offf to get 12% off though. Best of luck

Wonder if I'd get the same discount for the Police Association (Union)?

[nicandlance]

Lots of different opinions on this Here are mine :

If you do a lot of Kms per year then the fuel economy of the TDI makes it cheaper to own over several years. If you are really looking at saving $$$ then you need to look at the total "cost of ownership", including depreciation, insurance, servicing, consumables such as tyres, brake pads and discs etc etc. Also most petrol VWs run better on 98 octane petrol, which is much dearer than std ULP.

If you are considering buying a new VW then you aren't looking at low budget cars anyway. If I was buying a small/medium hatch back mainly on the whole of life cost basis I'd look seriously at a Honda Jazz, and maybe a few other asian cars.

Some repairs on VWs can be both too common and too expensive (eg aircon, turbos on TDIs), so many people either turn over their cars before the warranty runs out or buy the VW extended warranty.

My usual advice is to take each contender for a decent test drive (preferably on the same roads), and buy the one you like best. Everyone has different preferences and priorities, so what is best for me may be totally unsuitable for you.

If you are looking at driving a TDI in lots of heavy traffic make sure you try a DSG version as well as a manual, and research DPF regeneration too.

The more info you have the better the decision you can make.

I am still tossing up between a Mazda 3 and the golf.... lots of things to consider. How much does a new turbo cost? Whatever I buy, I want to hang on to it - can't afford to swap cars every 3 or so years. Would you say not to buy a golf if you want to hang on to it past it's warranty date?

[philthy]

I am still tossing up between a Mazda 3 and the golf.... lots of things to consider. How much does a new turbo cost? Whatever I buy, I want to hang on to it - can't afford to swap cars every 3 or so years. Would you say not to buy a golf if you want to hang on to it past it's warranty date?

You can extend the warranty out an extra 3 yrs, which might be worthwhile if keeping the car for 5 or 6 yrs.

[nicandlance]

I'm talking about keeping a car... well, let's just say I cant predict if and when I could trade again. Surely a car should be reliable outside the warranty period. You shouldn't be forced to trade merely because your car is outside of warranty.
I would hope a car of this stature would be reliable for years to come and not cost me a bucket just because it's past warranty date.

[Corey_R]

Seriously though, ANY car which has a component failure after warranty can cost you a heap. I mean, Honda's servicing prices are not exactly wonderful either! They're on another level compared to Toyota. I haven't had a friend with a Mazda for a while, so I'm not sure how they compare these days. But it's always hard to compare 'reliability' of one make and model to another based on forums. People will always post about their problems. But people won't post about "hey, 6 years, all good". I'm not really we have any statistics around to say whether the MKV/MK6 is going to be less reliable than the current Mazda 3 etc.