GTI Vs GTD

[peedman]

The GTD would handle much better though with the new xds diff. It is interesting that the GTD isnt included in the EOFY sales, perhaps demand over supply is so much greater than the GTI (which is inc in the sale)!

[CarbonVW]

GTD also gets the newer CR engine.

[kaanage]

A low kilometre and late model Golf GTSport TDI with original warranty remaining will be a better buy than the GTD as they are essentially the same car. You'd be saving yourself at least $10K over buying the GTD new.

The one with the failing injectors? I guess you could look for one that has had all 4 + the loom replaced.
And as CarbonVW has stated, the GTD engine is CR so it is MUCH smoother than the older PD engine.

[Greg Roles]

...but without the torque wack. Feels a lot more Accord like ( to me ) sadly. Still it is incredibly quiet, and "hopefully" the Pizeo injectors in it will hold up over time. It is far better off boost though. Oh and the high pressure fuel pump is the CR achillies heel, and it's uber sensitive to fuel impurities overall, the downside to CR; there's no free ride unfortunately.

Still, buying today, I'd go GTD with the suspension upgrade no question.

[triode12]

VW giveth and VW taketh away...

At least VW will fix the problem, All I know is that I rather have $10K in my pocket.

[kaanage]

I' rather not experience the way the diesel GT's cut out when an injector fails - immediate engine shutdown with no warning would be no fun at all in the wrong circumstances. Plus the DPF and regen cycles seem much less developed in the older engine.

The CR HPFP issue only seems to be occurring in Nth America where the fuel standard is lower than here and Europe.
An ECU tune would probably give a lot of the shove with extra top end too.

[Big T]

Im pretty keen on the GTD compared to the GT. Had a look at a GT a couple weeks ago and it just didn't look the goods. Really hard to find here in Adelaide as well. We have bugger all on the 2nd hand market.
Was pretty keen on the 103 with the sports pack but then realised it was a 103 made up to look sporty and am not sure if i'll be happy settling for that. Loved the way it drove and felt going up one of our hill climbs so expect the GTD to be even better.

[Transporter]

Yep, it would be GTD for me, new is new and with full warranty. I wouldn't be worried about the CR high pressure pump, just use diesel fuel additive with the BP diesel and change the fuel filter regularly.

I had MB Vito (not just one) with CR and never had any problems.

[alf13]

Hi Big T,

Finally picked the car up in Dec.

Couldn't be happier. Everything works as it should and it has NO rattles at all.

The only complaint, if you'd call it that, is the road noise on coarse roads. The car has no wind noise at all so I'm putting down to the tyres.

One of my friends who drives a V8 Senator recently drove it and he couldn't believe the performance it had.

Every time I get in it, is alwaays exciting, and the fuel economy is just great. Avg 5.7 of mixed driving and gives me a range of almost 1000ks.

I bought the car from Burwin VW in Ferntree Gully as they gave me a good deal.

[triode12]

FWIW, The wife and I drove the GTD on the track on the last VW track day and even she (a person whose least concern is performance) was not impressed. Suspension was setup for cruising rather than performance and power delivery was on the tame side of things. It is more a GT than a GTI - having said that the stock MkVI GTI is also a tad over refined compared to the MKVs.

That is why I recommended the MkV GT TDI, because for $45K, I'd rather buy the Golf GTI than GTD or save $10K and get a late model GT TDI (and buy extended warranty).

Better yet, if you can pony up the extra $$, I'd go for a basic R which is even more fun to drive over the GTI. Unless, fuel economy is the reason you are buying the GTD, the other cars in the range offer more fun for your $$.

Of course, YMMV and test all cars before making your decision.