GTI Oil/Filter Change

[kryten2001]

Firstly, what an easy task to complete. No underbody trays to remove to gain access to the sump plug and the location of the filter is brilliant, along with the 'no spill' mechanism on the the filter ensuring it's a clean job.

Isn't the Mk6 the same as the Mk5? The filter itself isn't a no-spill mechanism, rather the filter housing. You can put a third party filter in there and get the same approach.

I agree it's really good. Just watch you don't overtorque that filter housing. If you do, get ready for microfractures and tiny leaks

Thats good to hear. Im gonna get this done next weekend on my TDI which is also reaching 5000K's. Any reason why you went with Liqui Moly?

I would do a TDI religously every 5000kms. The main thing with the 507 oils is they have extreme detergent qualities to allow the engines to run clean to 15,000kms (that's really what the 507 spec is).. I still like to change the oil in my diesel every 5000kms anyway. It's in a terrible state when it comes out.

I can't help it as I'm really anal about oils an fluids. I'm sure the engine runs just fine with a longer interval, but I just like keeping it all fresh and clean.

[Mi16 Man]

Isn't the Mk6 the same as the Mk5? The filter itself isn't a no-spill mechanism, rather the filter housing. You can put a third party filter in there and get the same approach.

I haven't seen a filter on a Mk5 but the Mk6 is an 'old-skool' metal filter....no plastic housing.

[kryten2001]

I haven't seen a filter on a Mk5 but the Mk6 is an 'old-skool' metal filter....no plastic housing.

Oh ok... Our MK6 is a TDI which has the old plastic housing with paper filter inside (same a the Mk5 petrols, just in a different location).

They must have changed it. Probably for the better. Those plastic housing make for a very cheap filter, but it sucks when they leak.

[Lucas_R]

The Mk5 GTI's use a plastic canister at the front of the engine under the inlet manifold. You undo the canister and then replace the filter inside, then screw the canister back on. Same with the Golf R.

The Mk6 GTI's have a new style oil filter (no reusable cannister) that is mounted upside down at the top/front of the engine. You replace the entire filter with these ones.

Not sure about the diesels etc, but one of my brothers just bought a 77TSI Skoda Fabia and it has the same style filter to the Mk6 GTI's.

I haven't seen a filter on a Mk5 but the Mk6 is an 'old-skool' metal filter....no plastic housing.

[kryten2001]

The Mk5 GTI's use a plastic canister at the front of the engine under the inlet manifold. You undo the canister and then replace the filter inside, then screw the canister back on. Same with the Golf R.

The Mk6 GTI's have a new style oil filter (no reusable cannister) that is mounted upside down at the top/front of the engine. You replace the entire filter with these ones.

Not sure about the diesels etc, but one of my brothers just bought a 77TSI Skoda Fabia and it has the same style filter to the Mk6 GTI's.

The 2.0TDI definately has a plastic cannister, but mounted on the front of the block. You need to reach down from above to unscrew it.

I liked this design at first, but after mine started leaking I decided I didn't.....

Apparently the plastic cannister splits (microfractures) under heavy torque, and the assembly it connects to is also made of plastic - so it's probably going to be a real pain in the future when this plastic starts to degrade.

Strangely enough the plastic boot and the entire assembly (including the whole subsection the boot screws into) cost virtually the same. Must tell you something...

[Lucas_R]

Yes this is the reason why I replaced my plastic canister with an aluminium item from ECS. Better design, more durable and no leaks. You should see if it fits the diesels. See link below:

http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread....l=1#post159268

The 2.0TDI definately has a plastic cannister, but mounted on the front of the block. You need to reach down from above to unscrew it.

I liked this design at first, but after mine started leaking I decided I didn't.....

Apparently the plastic cannister splits (microfractures) under heavy torque, and the assembly it connects to is also made of plastic - so it's probably going to be a real pain in the future when this plastic starts to degrade.

Strangely enough the plastic boot and the entire assembly (including the whole subsection the boot screws into) cost virtually the same. Must tell you something...

[kryten2001]

Yes this is the reason why I replaced my plastic canister with an aluminium item from ECS. Better design, more durable and no leaks. You should see if it fits the diesels. See link below:

golf r oil change DIY

Fantastic!

The risk over time is also the housing the boot screws onto. For some reason VW also made this piece in plastic, so it breaks just as easily as the boot. Stupid design, really.

I'm getting one of these though, fantastic!

[hrb93]

My wifes old Gti MKV, purchased new sold at 40,000kms.

had 7 Oil and Filter changes in that period including the 30,000 dealer service.

all up cost $775.00 for everything.

6 x oil/filter changes done by my local mechanic he supplied the filter, i suplied the oil (Castrol Synth R, 1/2 price bargain) purchased 50 litres of it. He charged $50 each time to change it.

1 x 30,00Km service

have done oil and filter with all my cars, WRX's, Sti's, EVO's you name and never had an engine issue and some of those were pretty well modified.

PS: I use Mobil Diesel oil in the Sti, changes need to be more frequent because of the cleaning properties (but mine are anyway).

[Captain Courteous]

Hi Guys,

Has the GTI always had a hex bit sump plug?? I was doing an oil change yesterday and saw this:



I was expecting the usual 18mm bolt like on my TSI and since I didn't have anything decent to remove this setup (tried using my Ikea allen keys lol) I had to buy an in-hex bit socket:



FYI you'll need the 6mm bit






Not sure if this is something they did across the range last year or if it's just this engine? Anyways if you don't have the socket bit and are planning a DIY oil change, check which type of sump you have first.

[The One]

Hi Guys,

Has the GTI always had a hex bit sump plug?? I was doing an oil change yesterday and saw this:



I was expecting the usual 18mm bolt like on my TSI and since I didn't have anything decent to remove this setup (tried using my Ikea allen keys lol) I had to buy an in-hex bit socket:



FYI you'll need the 6mm bit






Not sure if this is something they did across the range last year or if it's just this engine? Anyways if you don't have the socket bit and are planning a DIY oil change, check which type of sump you have first.

The newer ones are moving to this design with the 'squeeze' washer. FYI reuse the sump bolt and use a new washer, a 19/18mm hex head one will fit, but it will cause you dramas later on, I have seen people refit a hex head one instead of reuse the Allen key one and they leak all the time! Not worth the hassle...