GTi axle tramp under acceleration

[slam]

I've started pushing the engine harder now that it has approx 5,000km on the clock, and I've noticed the GTi is very prone to axle tramp when the tyres slip under hard acceleration.

I had a Mk V 2.0 TDi before getting the Mk VI GTi, and I don't remember ever experiencing any axle tramp at all.

Is the Mk VI GTi really more prone to axle tramp than the Mk V TDi? Does this mean the TDI has harder engine mounts than the GTi?

Will the engine NVH be noticeably worse if I put harder engine mounts on the GTi?

[Titanium]

I agree slam. I reckon especially in wet with hard acceleration that axle tramp is unpleasant. Judicious use of the right foot is required.
Ray

[nat225]

i rarely get any axle tramp on mine...

because Torque Arm Insert & WALK do work!

but the increased NVH is not everyone's cup of tea.

[slam]

Is the increased NVH very obvious?

Any idea why the MkVI GTi axle tramps a lot more than my MkV 2.0 TDi? Does the 2.0 TDi have more rigid engine mounts, or is the MkVI more prone to axle tramps than the MkV for whatever reason?

[JustCruisn]

Is the increased NVH very obvious?

Any idea why the MkVI GTi axle tramps a lot more than my MkV 2.0 TDi? Does the 2.0 TDi have more rigid engine mounts, or is the MkVI more prone to axle tramps than the MkV for whatever reason?

Probably because the GTI has twice the power of the TDI

[peedman]

One of the good mods i have is BSH torque mount insert. Previously had the BFI 90a one but far too harsh for me, the BSH one you can hardly notice if at all any vibrations and wheel hop is gone. In the wet still get tramp but in the dry it improves alot!

[slam]

Probably because the GTI has twice the power of the TDI

It's not just power which makes the tyres break traction. The TDi has 14% more torque than the GTi (320 Nm vs 280Nm). This, combined with skinnier, smaller diameter and less grippy tyres made the TDi at least as easy to spin the tyres as teh GTi

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One of the good mods i have is BSH torque mount insert. Previously had the BFI 90a one but far too harsh for me, the BSH one you can hardly notice if at all any vibrations and wheel hop is gone. In the wet still get tramp but in the dry it improves alot!

Thanks Pedro

[Ryan_R]

i rarely get any axle tramp on mine...

because Torque Arm Insert & WALK do work!

but the increased NVH is not everyone's cup of tea.

Hey nat, are you still running the 1.4 Twincharged engine? APR only shows mounts for the 2.0l GTI so if you've got a suitable purchase link I'd be interested.

Thanks

[Brendan_A]

Ryan, I'm running the APR lower torque arm insert in my twincharge. Makes a huge difference!

[Ryan_R]

Looks like I'll be visiting Volkspower this weekend, unless I have to order one in.