GTi axle tramp under acceleration

[T Go]

I think engine mounts are not for everyone.
I got the APR one on my old Polo GTI, and it was the worst thing I did.
The vibration on idle was very noticeable, and it was embarrassing turning the air-con on.

I know they're two different cars, but just be sure you need it I guess.
Maybe see if you can get someone to show you one that has an aftermarket mount installed?

[Ryan_R]

So did you take if back off? Are there any specs as to how far to push it in, or how tight to do up the bolt that could have an impact on this?


I think I need to get one due to my cars' power output. I can definitely feel something in the engine move when I shift down gears in Manual mode (i.e. dropping from 5th to 3rd before a 90 degree corner in my street, not driving fast or anything).

[T Go]

So did you take if back off?

I ended up leaving it on there.
But every time I turned the air-con on, I wish I had never got it.

I guess there's different engine mounts, with different levels of stiffness, so I guess it should be ok?
I dont know... just be careful! haha.

[slam]

Sorry if this is a silly question - is the stiffness of the engine mount the only thing which influences the amount of axle tramp?

I haven't driven the Scirocco R so I don't know what it's like. But since it is also a FWD and the engine output is much higher than the standard GTi, does it mean that:

1) If the engine NVH levels in the Scirocco R are simlar to the GTi (implying similar stiffness in the engine mounts), then the Scirocco R will have a lot more axle tramp due to the higher engine output?

2) If the Scirocco R has the same amount or less axle tramp than the GTi, then the engine NVH levels must be a lot worse because the engine mounts are stiffer?

I'm still trying to work out why my MkV 2.0TDi didn't have any axle tramp at all, even though it was really easy to spin the tyres with 320Nm, whereas the MkVI GTi suffers from it really badly

[nat225]

Hey nat, are you still running the 1.4 Twincharged engine? APR only shows mounts for the 2.0l GTI so if you've got a suitable purchase link I'd be interested.

Thanks

no Ryan. traded the mk6 118tsi in december 2010 for a mk6 gti

the TAI for all mk6 should be the same i think.

this is what i got:


Awesome - Neuspeed Engine Torque Arm Insert 2009-> Cars inc Mk6 GTI

[Ryan_R]

Sounds good. Volkspower have them in stock so will pick one up on Saturday and fit it later on when I chuck in the Intercooler. Gotta get VW to check something out first so would rather keep the engine bay looking stock for that.

I recall you saying you upgraded to the GTI but just wasn't sure if you also had a TAI in the 1.4TSI. I'm of the mind that I should upgrade to the GTI one day too but think I'll at least wait for the Mk7 to arrive before making my mind up, plus it will be hard to say goodbye to my somewhat unique Golf (I've never seen one exactly like, or even similar to mine).

[driftn]

My previous ride was an APR Tuned Pirelli
It used to wheel hop like a MF from a standing start
Always wanted to try the TAI or Whiteline ALK as other golfers reported improvements with one or both fitted.

If buying the TAI make sure you get the correct DURO rating to ensure you dont introduce too much noise & vibration in the cabin. Other guys on here should let you know which one is best....

[Ryan_R]

APR recommend 90DURO for DSG and 80 for Manual - I assume that's all I need to go by?

[peedman]

If I were you i would err on the side of comfort and go 80 regardless of transmission. BSH one is 78a FYI.

[Brendan_A]

Ryan, my brother has the 90duro in his GTI dsg and when he first collected the car after installation he thought the car was stuffed! The vibrations through the cabin were pretty bad, especially when cold and on take off. The improvements are too good so he can live with it. . Since it has done about 10k Kms it has settled down ok.

I have the 80duro in my manual and it was no where near as bad as my brothers car. Mine has settled in quite nicely. Can feel some vibration when the clutch is engaging and when the AC pump comes on.

It does make a big difference but make sure you want to go down that path.