Thread: Gtd

**Russ59** · 31-03-2009, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by coreying

Yeah - but that counts the European sales where diesel has been a valid alternative for decades...

That counts for all VW passenger vehicle sales in 2008 (worldwide) that doesn't include the commercial range which no doubt would mostly be diesels anyway. Next time you're out and about keep an eye out for VW's and then look to see if they're petrol or diesel, I think you might get a surprise, because I know the majority of them that I've seen recently have been TDI's. It's an epidemic

Russ

**tdi guy** · 31-03-2009, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Russ59

IMHO I think in general people are looking at the economy and reliability aspect of a diesel as well. As Steve tdi has just said, the fact that he felt he had to rev the guts out of the petrol GT to get real performance would have to be another + for the TDI. I know with mine that it doesn't matter how hard you drive it, even around town, it still averages no more than 7 L /100 km in fuel consumption and I only have 10,000 k's up so it should get even better. I doubt that the petrol models would do as well in comparison. Russ

Is the GTD engine the same as the GT TDI (it has 2kw more power)?

TG

PS - notice how I did not take the bait about the GT TSI, and respond about how sweet and smooth the twin-charger motor is, and how effortless the low end torque and the comfort of knowing the revs can climb so happily compared with a lumpy old tractor (oops, there I go, couldn't help myself...

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**gregozedobe** · 31-03-2009, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by tsi guy

notice how I did not take the bait about the GT TSI, and respond about how sweet and smooth the twin-charger motor is, and how effortless the low end torque and the comfort of knowing the revs can climb so happily compared with a lumpy old tractor (oops, there I go, couldn't help myself...

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Ahh, but Russ is still well ahead on points, as he used the "IMHO" qualifier, whereas you didn't

The VAG engine choices are getting more and more interesting, with the new CR engines coming soon (out already in the Skoda Octavia vRS), as well as the 1.8 TSI (turbo only engine) with maximum torque at only 1,500 rpm. The mk 6 GTI has the new chain driven cams engine too, with the promise of much more power in the AWD GTI-R (aka R20).

**Russ59** · 31-03-2009, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by tsi guy

Is the GTD engine the same as the GT TDI (it has 2kw more power)?

TG

PS - notice how I did not take the bait about the GT TSI, and respond about how sweet and smooth the twin-charger motor is, and how effortless the low end torque and the comfort of knowing the revs can climb so happily compared with a lumpy old tractor (oops, there I go, couldn't help myself...

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I wasn't actually bagging out the petrol GT either, just stating that the increase in diesel sales is IMO a sign of things to come. I think you'll need to prepare yourself for an influx of lumpy old tractors on our roads, because grease is no longer the word it's DIESEL

**Greg Roles** · 01-04-2009, 03:51 PM

It gets better. Twin turbo looking more likely! It mentions better than 150kw (200hp) and 352nm (260ftpd).

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...n-Golf/235190/