Golf R vs WRX vs Evo vs Megane RS250

**team_v** · 29-06-2010, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by G-rig

What fix and what issues? The R comes with Haldex Gen 4 which is the best out there. You can't get AWD on the lower models so it's a bit unique that way.

Pretty good overall package and i'd prefer one to an Evo or Megane considering all things.

It fixes the power delivery and transfer with the Haldex switch.
To clarify, yes it does have AWD which set's it apart from the normal golf range but it will almost never get used to it's potential.
Hell i couldn't even get the Mk6 GTI to loose control at the driver training day.

It is a good overall package but it isn't "the greatest car ever made" which most new Golf R owners tend to believe (especailly one in particular)

I would probably prefer one over the renault and jap cars as well but i would get a GTI over the R purely becasue there is no need unless you are going to track in, in which case you get a lotus or an MX5.

**G-rig** · 29-06-2010, 07:52 AM

I think youll find the switch is for the older Gen 2 controller. The new Gen 4 haldex can shift as much as 100% power to the rear wheels in certain circumstances.

Anyway I agree the GTI is fine for around town and may not get the most out of the R unless you are on the track.

**simonm** · 29-06-2010, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by G-rig

Anyway I agree the GTI is fine for around town and may not get the most out of the R unless you are on the track.

Or you live in wet/icy climates, travel to the snow, use dirt/gravel country roads etc. where AWD gives you a genuine advantage.

**team_v** · 29-06-2010, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by G-rig

I think youll find the switch is for the older Gen 2 controller. The new Gen 4 haldex can shift as much as 100% power to the rear wheels in certain circumstances.

Anyway I agree the GTI is fine for around town and may not get the most out of the R unless you are on the track.

The Gen 4 can shift 100% to the rear's but you cannot control how it does so on a stock R.
I believe the remote control (which works on Gen 4 Haldex unit's) is in place to allow you to specify the power split ratio but am happy to be proven wrong.

see here: http://www.goapr.com.au/products/Info_gen4.pdf

Originally Posted by simonm

Or you live in wet/icy climates, travel to the snow, use dirt/gravel country roads etc. where AWD gives you a genuine advantage.

Generally there are no VW dealers in Australian locations with those conditions though.
And if you are in those conditions you won't be using the 188kw to it's potential anyway.

**G-rig** · 29-06-2010, 08:53 AM

Gen 4 > Gen 2. But perhaps Guy could chime in.

You can't fit the switch to Gen 4 can you?

**anthony_VWJET** · 29-06-2010, 09:31 AM

The Golf R is a great car thats been detuned for our *****ty Australian roads. Cant you just leave it as that?

**simonm** · 29-06-2010, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by team_v

Generally there are no VW dealers in Australian locations with those conditions though.
And if you are in those conditions you won't be using the 188kw to it's potential anyway.

There are no VW dealers in Canberra? Who did I give my deposit to?

The ACT and surrounding region also has some very nice paved roads for having fun on (Cotter/Tidbinbilla region, coastal roads etc), so I think there's plenty of opportunity to use the 188kw to its potential.

**team_v** · 29-06-2010, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by simonm

There are no VW dealers in Canberra? Who did I give my deposit to?

The ACT and surrounding region also has some very nice paved roads for having fun on (Cotter/Tidbinbilla region, coastal roads etc), so I think there's plenty of opportunity to use the 188kw to its potential.

And how often do you drive on these roads in these conditions?
It does get cold in Canberra but the roads have never frozen over with a layer of ice on top of them when i have been there.