Golf R vs APR stage 1 Quattro A3 2.0t

[khonfahm]

Imo not so good Audi resale has a lot to do with higher initial price, conservative styling, perceived higher running expenses and most importantly ... less demand in the second hand market. Many buyers of low mileage 3-5 year old Golf GTI/R are about 20-30 y.o. that put less emphasis on prestige & luxury as a purchase decision. Another point would be that not many will spend 40K on a second hand Audi when a GTI can be had new for about 5K more. My 2 cents. Audi A3 2.0l Quattro with KO3 still has the older version EA113 motor afaik.
Cheers.
WJ

See, from what I have found.. a 2nd hand audi is around $23k!
And a GTI is about $26k! It is the opposite!?

So this is what confuses me!

[WhiteJames]

Agree ... but good deals can be had on the higher version second-hand Audi S3 with all the good bits, esp. when comparing against second-hand or new Golf GTI and Golf R. Wouldn't suprise me that in a year or so, the Golf R second-hand fetches better resale and a faster sale than the equivalent Audi S3. Volkswagen image = cool. Audi image = conservative. A bit like a Ford Falcon XR6/8 and Ford Fairmont or Holden SS -v- Berlina for an Austarlian equivalent.
Cheers.
WJ

[kamold]

Id say a lot of punters haven't even heard of the S3 let alone know its on par with a Golf R. Audi as mentioned is considered a conservative brand in Australia.
Seems vag are content to have it that way and sell volume through the vw brand.

[Finance_Analyst]

As i said in another post, you buy Audis at Audi/BMW prices, sell next time at VW prices like my car wholesaler mate said. Same applies to Lexus - buy at Lexus/Mercedes Benz prices, sell next time at Toyota prices. Lexus/Audi are still considered inferior in the second hand car market to BMW/Mercedes from what the industry people say. Doesn't mean they are bad cars though, they just lack brand cachet compared to the traditional big two German marques.

[nat225]

but true enthusiasts dont buy cars based on the resale values right?

[Finance_Analyst]

a true enthusiast wouldn't drive an audi

[Ideo]

a true enthusiast wouldn't drive an audi

Or a VW or a Merc SLK.

[CNBLU]

Imo not so good Audi resale has a lot to do with higher initial price, conservative styling, perceived higher running expenses and most importantly ... less demand in the second hand market. Many buyers of low mileage 3-5 year old Golf GTI/R are about 20-30 y.o. that put less emphasis on prestige & luxury as a purchase decision. Another point would be that not many will spend 40K on a second hand Audi when a GTI can be had new for about 5K more. My 2 cents. Audi A3 2.0l Quattro with KO3 still has the older version EA113 motor afaik.
Cheers.
WJ

Depends on what year Audi you have. Mine is a 2008 MY09 with the newer motor (chain driven) which is the same as the MK6 GTi.

Having driven a FWD car for nearly 3 yrs, I can safely say that the Quattro system is ALOT better than driving a car with FWD, from standstill to coming out of a round-a-bout, the Quattro just grips.

[Finance_Analyst]

Or a VW or a Merc SLK.

That was when I was a self indulgent weiner and may still well be. WHich is why I might just get an Audi next.

[Ideo]

You do realise that most Audis/VWs share the same platform, right?