Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[SilvrFoxX]

Did they knock back you Craig Thompson credit card at the massage palour today CM?

[Candyman]

Did they knock back you Craig Thompson credit card at the massage palour today CM?

Have you been on the turps again SF ?

[SilvrFoxX]

Yep, but at least I am not grumpy about it

[Candyman]

Yep, but at least I am not grumpy about it

I assume you have read the many threads by owners going through the pains of warranty repairs

Personally, I enjoy my VW but I feel for the many who have had and are having ongoing "issues" with their Golfs

There is nothing from VW or from rumours of the new Golf that addresses any of those concerns.

[AdamD]

Any links ??

These links have some info (nothing specific on the turbo size):

2013 Audi S3 Photos and Info – News – Car and Driver
Audi Gives Us the Skinny On Its Third-Gen EA888 Turbo Four and the SQ5

Also, check out the Mk7 section.

[WhiteJames]

All this talk about the forthcoming Golf R ... lightweight components such as alloy wheels & alloy brakes, more weight saving in the body panels ... eletro-mechanical front & rear diff with electric Haldex Gen 5 pre-empting the need for power to be suffled to the rear end. No mention any large KO4 turbo, but the Golf R weighing in at 1200kgs, the KO3 would be plenty good in higher state of tune. Any KO4 for the new EA888 motor would have to have the exhaust manifold cast as part of the turbo unit as per KO3 EA888 GTI motor:

New VW Golf R heads seven new models | Autocar

1200kgs for the Mark 7 Golf R is a whopping 300kgs lighter than the MK6 Golf R.

Cheers.
WJ

[parso_rex]

I can't believe they will be able to remove 276 kilograms from the current cars weight @ 1476 MT 1496 DSG. Did Eddie Obeid tell you that ?

Edit: read that, they are on drugs much as I wish it to be true

[WhiteJames]

^Neither can I. I was expecting about 90-130kgs worth of weight saving. There is a possibility that the Golf R and special Ed Carbon Golf GTI will be built in an exclusive factory that churns out the petrol-electric MK7 Golf with additional weight saving measures, but 276kgs is a lot to lose from one model variant to another. The pics pretty much show how the forthcoming Golf R will look ... a bit more conservative & sedate than the MK7 Golf GTI imo.

Cheers.
WJ

[AdamD]

No mention any large KO4 turbo, but the Golf R weighing in at 1200kgs, the KO3 would be plenty good in higher state of tune. Any KO4 for the new EA888 motor would have to have the exhaust manifold cast as part of the turbo unit as per KO3 EA888 GTI motor

You mean like how it is on the 2013 S3 then:

The exhaust manifold is integrated into the cylinder head... The large turbocharger is also a new development. It achieves a maximum boost pressure of up to 1.2 bar for even more spontaneous engine response.

The new S3 also weighs "no more than 1,395 kilograms", or 60 down on the previous model. The R might get a more substantial weight cut, but there's just no way it's going to be anything like 200kg lighter than an S3.

Source: 2013 Audi S3 is hot-hatch forbidden fruit par excellence

[brad]

All this talk about the forthcoming Golf R ... lightweight components such as alloy wheels & alloy brakes, more weight saving in the body panels ... eletro-mechanical front & rear diff with electric Haldex Gen 5 pre-empting the need for power to be suffled to the rear end. No mention any large KO4 turbo, but the Golf R weighing in at 1200kgs, the KO3 would be plenty good in higher state of tune. Any KO4 for the new EA888 motor would have to have the exhaust manifold cast as part of the turbo unit as per KO3 EA888 GTI motor:

I'm pretty sure one of the 1.8TSi Skoda guys runs a K04 on is his EA888. He didn't sound like he did a lot of hunting around to get it.

I agree re weight. They'll have to spend a lot of money to drop 250kg & not make the car into something that breaks more than it does already (or affect NVH substantially)