Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[littlejohn]

No wonder all the fanbois here are rushing off to APR for a Stage2+ for their GTI / R
Check out these 0-100 / 0-400m times that "Wheels" has done recently
Golf GTI man - 7.2 /15.0 secs
Golf GTI DSG - 6.6 / 14.8 secs
Golf R man - 6.4 / 14.6 secs
Subaru WRX - 5.4 / 13.7 secs
And all for $500 less than a 4 door GTI.
Then a visit to MRT and keeping full factory warranty would be even more spectacular.

huh?? I don't see what you're getting at?? I own both 08 WRX and 11 Golf R and a friend has 10 STI. In reality the Suby's have nothing on the VW.
From factory (ie no mods) the WRX has nothing on the R. The STI is quicker, but not by lots. The VW is way more refined and better built. It's easy to see and feel the quality and technology. Whereas the Subys are severely lacking the WOW factor.

[Mountainman]

huh?? I don't see what you're getting at?? In reality the Suby's have nothing on the VW.
From factory (ie no mods) the WRX has nothing on the R. The STI is quicker, but not by lots. Whereas the Subys are severely lacking the WOW factor.

What am I getting at? Exactly as I stated - no wonder the APR rush is popular with the new WRX spanking the GTI / R in acceleration like that.
In reality the Suby's have nothing on the VW? Huh? A second over the quarter on the R and almost 2 seconds to 100 over the manual GTI is hardly nothing.
WOW factor? Well it appears to me from the figures above that it is worth a WOW.

[Ideo]

What am I getting at? Exactly as I stated - no wonder the APR rush is popular with the new WRX spanking the GTI / R in acceleration like that.
In reality the Suby's have nothing on the VW? Huh? A second over the quarter on the R and almost 2 seconds to 100 over the manual GTI is hardly nothing.
WOW factor? Well it appears to me from the figures above that it is worth a WOW.

I'm sure most people who bought an R also test drove a WRX, or at least considered it. I did, wasn't as impressed as I was the R despite it being quicker.

Besides, if I wanted to go quick in a straight line there are countless other cars that are quicker in a straight line than a WRX.

If you base car buying decisions solely on 0-100 times then, good for you. Others don't.

[team_v]

I'm sure most people who bought an R also test drove a WRX, or at least considered it. I did, wasn't as impressed as I was the R despite it being quicker.

Besides, if I wanted to go quick in a straight line there are countless other cars that are quicker in a straight line than a WRX.

If you base car buying decisions solely on 0-100 times then, good for you. Others don't.

I can see where Mountainman is coming from.
A lot of the people who commented in this thread as prospective R owners used the "it's quicker than a GTI through corners or to 100km/h" as their argument for the purchase so i can't see how it is not valid now against another make/model in the similar price range.

Having said that i would never buy a new subaru because they look like the design team was on crack and studied picasso before drawing up designs for their newest models. And the fact that people are compromising more and more now to get a "bit of everything" vehicle rather than a dedicated 1 purpose vehicle.

Will be interesting to see who subaru compete against now with Mitsu pulling the plug on the Evo.

Some say that VW is about to become the new Toyota. If the new Passat is solmething to judge by well, I think they're right...

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I agree mate.
Debadge the Passat and you have an Aurion in my eyes.

[adzy]

Having said that i would never buy a new subaru because they look like the design team was on crack and studied picasso before drawing up designs for their newest models.

........ whilst enjoying a holliday in Korea, BUT now even Kia's look better

[littlejohn]

What am I getting at? Exactly as I stated - no wonder the APR rush is popular with the new WRX spanking the GTI / R in acceleration like that.
In reality the Suby's have nothing on the VW? Huh? A second over the quarter on the R and almost 2 seconds to 100 over the manual GTI is hardly nothing.
WOW factor? Well it appears to me from the figures above that it is worth a WOW.

That's not reality... well not for the large majority of owners of any of the vehicles that you mention.
I would hazard a guess that 99% of owners never see a drag strip, and about 98% will never do a traffic light drag either.
So in reality, ie the world where 99% of owners live, 1/4mile times and 0-100 times mean nothing. But in my case, seeing that I own both the WRX and a golf R. I can say the numbers you posted are not accurate for the cars I own. Perhaps I have a dud WRX, who knows, but it feels like every other stock WRX I've driven.

Don't get me wrong, the WRX is a great workhorse, but it's no powerhouse in stock form. My previous car to the Golf R was a RX8, adn that was way more fun than the WRX.