Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[thezoneR32]

Ok you win, the R is better blah blah blah. But hey its gonna cost me crap loads to make the switch probably double the cost of what I could get for the R32 privately. You can't give away 2nd hand cars at the moment. And VW would offer me 2 and 6pence for the R32. Might just stick with it and keep giving my biased uneducated opinions to justify my position

WJ - would you recommenmd H&R over whiteline for sways?

[WhiteJames]

H&R sway bars are best by far and worth twice the price they may cost over the Whiteline bars. No need for new bolts or clips - H&R use OE bolts and clips for bushes. The bushes are rubber with a teflon coating that do not squeak and do not require any oiling. Front and Rear H&R sway bars on the R32 will bring the handling much closer to a new (stock) Golf R. Coupled with that super-responsive no-lag V6 ... the R32 will be formidable up a mountain pass.

Cheers.
WJ

[hooba]

Might just stick with it and keep giving my biased uneducated opinions to justify my position

Brilliant!

[G-rig]

Ok you win, the R is better blah blah blah. But hey its gonna cost me crap loads to make the switch probably double the cost of what I could get for the R32 privately. You can't give away 2nd hand cars at the moment. And VW would offer me 2 and 6pence for the R32. Might just stick with it and keep giving my biased uneducated opinions to justify my position

WJ - would you recommenmd H&R over whiteline for sways?

Nothing wrong with the handling of the R32 once you have some good Coilovers, Haldex Gen II and H&R sway bars. Would out handle an R on stock suspension IMO and then it's just down to your tyres which are the last thing to let go .

[entice]

Is this thread still going????

[REXman]

Yep? This message is too short?

[dave_r]

Is this thread still going????

Why wouldn't it be, this thread is like politics or religion. No one will ever agree but this *is* a discussion forum is it not?

[WhiteJames]

Go Auto review from the Tasmania Golf R launch drive:

Volkswagen Golf R 3-dr hatch | GoAuto - Our Opinion

Interesting to see that the Manual Golf R has shorter gearing than the DSG Golf R.

Cheers.
WJ

[REXman]

I would have thought the opposite? Interesting.

[WhiteJames]

Service Training

Self-Study Program 824803

The Volkswagen 2.0 Litre

Chain-Driven TSI Engine


EA888: High-Pressure Pump



The demand controlled high-pressure pump by
Bosch is driven by a four lobed cam on the end of
the intake camshaft.


The pump piston is driven by the camshaft and a
cam follower. This reduces friction as well as the
chain forces. The results are smoother engine
operation and higher fuel economy.


The use of the four lobe cam has allowed a reduced
piston stroke compared to earlier versions of the
2.0L TSI engine. Due to the shorter stroke, the
individual delivery rates are lower. This, in turn,
results in reduced pressure fluctuations. The
metering precision of the injectors is also improved,
as there is now one feed stroke per injection. The
advantage of this is improved oxygen sensor control
and fuel efficiency.

EA888: Fuel Rail


The fuel delivery rate of the high-pressure pump has
been reduced through the use of a four-lobe cam.
A quicker pressure build-up is thus possible. This
build-up benefits both cold start and hot start
situations.

The EA888 motor in the Mark 6 Golf GTI (and Tiguan 125TSI) has improved fuel metering over the older type EA113 motor in the MKV GTI and Golf R. The reduced fuel pressure fluctuations of one feed stroke per injection of fuel in the new EA888 motor results in greater consistency between the throttle application and acceleration of the motor – in other words - the injectors and fuel pump are working in unison on the same time cycle in the new EA888 motor.


Turbo lag down low on the Golf R was not the only issue I found with the KO4 boosted older EA113 motor. The pressure fluctuations between throttle applications and lack of motor response, or at times, too much motor response, was noted on my Golf R test drive and it detracts from the driver/vehicle feeling of connectedness.


Volkswagen has done a sterling job of reducing the turbo lag in the KO4 Golf R EA113 motor. The difference in fuel pressure build-up between the older EA113 motor and new EA888 motor feels tangible, as mentioned by myself in post # 1-2 and other forum members in subsequent reviews. Other forum member’s reviews described the throttle response of the Golf R as ‘wooden’, ‘unresponsive’ or ‘inert’.


The same also holds true between EA113 and EA888 of the MKV and MKVI Golf GTI motors using a similar sized turbo-chargers (also holds true for the Audi A3 147 kW Quattro AWD –v- Tiguan 125TSI AWD). Turbo lag of the larger KO4 turbo is another issue in itself.


There was a stage a several years ago where guys that boosted their turbo-chargers on the EA113 MKV GTI motor experienced fuel delivery problems esp. when going to stage II turbo boosted tunes – this came down to issues with the OE fuel pump and absence of the four lobe cam actuator in the older MKV Golf EA113 motor.

Cheers
WJ