Golf R -v- Golf GTI

**SilvrFoxX** · 17-11-2010, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Corey_R

I guess I get the point you're making, but that's a pretty bad example. Whilst 52" is clearly bigger than 42", bigger doesn't mean better

The 52" is only better than the 42" if it's a better model! In fact, even if it's the same model, people could argue that the 42" would be better (quality) because of the finer dot-pitch of the screen....

You dont want to start this conversation.. it will go down the hole of Plasma v LCD v LED v 3D.. what a waste of time

**team_v** · 17-11-2010, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Corey_R

I guess I get the point you're making, but that's a pretty bad example. Whilst 52" is clearly bigger than 42", bigger doesn't mean better

The 52" is only better than the 42" if it's a better model! In fact, even if it's the same model, people could argue that the 42" would be better (quality) because of the finer dot-pitch of the screen....

Agreed.

Also, some people may not have the extra 10k to throw around to upgrade to the R and with all the electronic wizardry in the GTI is will be stable/good enough for normal road use.

guest12345 · 17-11-2010, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by SilvrFoxX

I doubt that .. the GTI just got a new engine and the R is the MKV engine..

The point is, with GTI and R both running a 2l turbo engine, vw have to differentiate between the 2 cars. Hence the gti might got a "new" engine, it is not a better engine than what is in the R (new or old). Eg. gti runs k03 turbo and R runs k04 turbo. IF vw decided to continue with the r32, maybe gti mk6 would of got the better k04 turbo instead of the k03?

Originally Posted by Corey_R

I guess I get the point you're making, but that's a pretty bad example. Whilst 52" is clearly bigger than 42", bigger doesn't mean better

The 52" is only better than the 42" if it's a better model! In fact, even if it's the same model, people could argue that the 42" would be better (quality) because of the finer dot-pitch of the screen....

I was trying to keep it short. What i meant was having 2 tvs, 1 better than the other side by side. You can tell the difference on the rack but when you take it home there is nothing to compare it with, and the not as good one in reality is still pretty good.

Anyways, at the end of the day, it all depends on the budget one have. But if the issue of 5-10k is not a big one, i'm sure alot of people would go for the R.

IMO i didn't think the gti was that good of a car to start off with, they could of improved alot but they didn't because the R is running a 2l engine as well.

**SilvrFoxX** · 17-11-2010, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by den525

The point is, with GTI and R both running a 2l turbo engine, vw have to differentiate between the 2 cars. Hence the gti might got a "new" engine, it is not a better engine than what is in the R (new or old). Eg. gti runs k03 turbo and R runs k04 turbo. IF vw decided to continue with the r32, maybe gti mk6 would of got the better k04 turbo instead of the k03? .

I believe they think they have.. the differenciation is not just the engine.. how does this perspective hold water .. Subaru have been running the WRX and The STI for years.. and the engines are the same size.. the reality is running gear is stronger in all aspects in reality the VW offering is far more differenciated .. I dont know that much about the EVO offering but it is also along the same lines

**Big Yellow** · 17-11-2010, 04:38 PM

but the mk6 gti does have a new engine and the golf r has an old engine.....

**Corey_R** · 17-11-2010, 05:43 PM

New doesn't mean "better" either.

I mean, the best TV's every made are from 3 years ago, the last generation of Pioneer Kuro. NO manfacturer has made a TV as good since.
New isn't always better!

**Converted** · 17-11-2010, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Corey_R

New doesn't mean "better" either....
New isn't always better!

**SilvrFoxX** · 17-11-2010, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Corey_R

New doesn't mean "better" either.

I mean, the best TV's every made are from 3 years ago, the last generation of Pioneer Kuro. NO manfacturer has made a TV as good since.
New isn't always better!

yup, I have one.. havnt seen anything like it since