Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[MkVIGTI]

The R uses the same intercooler as the GTI? But I read in some posts that the engine oil temp in the R is lower than that of the GTI?

[Corey_R]

Yes, the R uses the same intercooler as the GTI.
The differences in oil temp are more to do with the fact that they use different engines/oil systems/fuel systems though.

[triode12]

Yes, the R uses the same intercooler as the GTI.
The differences in oil temp are more to do with the fact that they use different engines/oil systems/fuel systems though.

Which btw is the same as the one in the MkV Pirelli and is larger than the one in the Golf MkV GTI.

[Corey_R]

Yeah, haven't seen it compared to the MKV cars.

From Maverick's site, he has the p/n's for the parts as:
S3 Intercooler 1K0 145 803 P (1K0145803P)
Edition 30 Intercooler 1K0 145 803 A (1K0145803A)

So I guess if someone checked out their R and could see a part number, that may confirm if it is the same as the Pirelli (Edition 30) or not.
Either way, from all the photos and from those who've already changed their R intercooler, it's not the same intercooler as the S3.

[WhiteJames]

On a side issue with the aftermarket sway bars for the Golf R - here is a testimony from TheZoneR32 who has recently fitted a set of H&R bars to his R32 that was riding on the HPA Motorsport KW SHS coilovers + Haldex Controller:

Got some H&R sways fitted yesterday. 24mm Front set to soft -26mm rear set to Hard. Bought them direct from ECS tuning as the dollar is so good. The difference is amazing. The whole car is really tied down now. Turn in responsiveness and feedback has increased substantially. Understeer virtually non-existent. It also feels smoother and more expensive to drive now. This is a no brainer. I would describe the drive before the sways as sloppy compared to this. I would go as far as to say that doing the coilovers alone is a waste of time as would be a rear only sway. Now the car is complete............for now

Atm:

I'm 50% GTI.

The other 50% makes up in three equal parts:
Golf R
Polo GTI
Megane RS250 Cup Trophee.

This may change next month.

Wanted to test drive the Renault RS250 Cup prior to purhcasing the GTI, but wasn't released locally. Local review of the Renault hasn't said anything about unliveable ride comfort or nervous attitude with the torsion beam rear suspension - so far so good. In hindsight: Polo GTI is a tad on the small side. Renault offers heaps for 50K driveway - Brembo Brakes, Recaro Seats, LSD, 19" wheels, Xenons, Bluetooth, MDI and recent local review is so far favourable. Pity it only comes in a 3 - door & manual.

Do we concurr that stock for stock the GTI is the pick over the Golf R & in terms of adding performance enhancement of the motor/ECU - the Golf R is the pick over the GTI?

Cheers
WJ

[dave_r]

On a side issue with the aftermarket sway bars for the Golf R - here is a testimony from TheZoneR32 who has recently fitted a set of H&R bars to his R32 that was riding on the HPA Motorsport KW SHS coilovers + Haldex Controller

How is that valid? IMO the R handles far better stock than the R32 did so you may not see such noticable gains. Hard to say unless you compare them back to back.

Do we concurr that stock for stock the GTI is the pick

People that bought a GTI would, people that bought an R would disagree.

[SilvrFoxX]

On a side issue with the aftermarket sway bars for the Golf R - here is a testimony from TheZoneR32 who has recently fitted a set of H&R bars to his R32 that was riding on the HPA Motorsport KW SHS coilovers + Haldex Controller:



Atm:

I'm 50% GTI.

The other 50% makes up in three equal parts:
Golf R
Polo GTI
Megane RS250 Cup Trophee.

This may change next month.

Wanted to test drive the Renault RS250 Cup prior to purhcasing the GTI, but wasn't released locally. Local review of the Renault hasn't said anything about unliveable ride comfort or nervous attitude with the torsion beam rear suspension - so far so good. In hindsight: Polo GTI is a tad on the small side. Renault offers heaps for 50K driveway - Brembo Brakes, Recaro Seats, LSD, 19" wheels, Xenons, Bluetooth, MDI and recent local review is so far favourable. Pity it only comes in a 3 - door & manual.

Do we concurr that stock for stock the GTI is the pick over the Golf R & in terms of adding performance enhancement of the motor/ECU - the Golf R is the pick over the GTI?

Cheers
WJ

WJ , I love your write ups and have been educated through the process, however you are in denial.. you want an R

[Fab_R]

WJ , I love your write ups and have been educated through the process, however you are in denial.. you want an R

Spot on!!!

[dave_r]

you want an R

Not that there is anything wrong with that

Everyone does!

[Fab_R]

How is that valid? IMO the R handles far better stock than the R32 did so you may not see such noticable gains. Hard to say unless you compare them back to back.


People that bought a GTI would, people that bought an R would disagree.

Also WJ is missing the point of the different weight up front of the R32 compared to the R - 4cyl -v- 6cyl