Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[Sharkie]

Yeah it is.
155kw and 350Nm. But it means the ECU updates etc don't make as big of a difference unfortunately. Nice engine though.

FWIW, I've no idea where the A3 / S3's are being made - could be Germany for all I know. It's just funny the comments that some Audi dealers have made to me whilst trying to distinguish the A3/S3 from the Golf, and justify the price difference...

Actually the A3 runs the MK5 Golf engine (147kw/280NM), and the A4, A5 & Q5 runs the new valve lift engine (155kw/350NM).

Big thing about the A3 2.0T quattro is that it is quicker (6.7s v 6.9s 0-100km/h) than the GTI despite being 200kg heavier .... AWD advantage .....in stock its not a a R competitor directly, but add a K04 and its dead equal performance wise to the R .... its like a R-lite but for more money ....

And BTW, Audi's have worse resale than VWs .... spend $50K on an A3, $40K on a GTI and in 3 years time get $25K for each ....

[dave_r]

Oh well... I honestly prefer the MK6 Golf interior and exterior over the A3/S3 anyway...

What he said and DSG only comes in that stupid looking sportwagon thing. I'd have settled with a 3dr if it had DSG and saved myself the 6-12mth wait!

[Corey_R]

Heh... I thought they updated the engines at the last "extremely minor facelift". Oh well, there you go. Thanks Sharkie.

[Finance_Analyst]

Although the Audi dealer on the Gold Coast (who also own the VW dealer I bought my GTI from) were honest enough to say that a lot of their cars are similar to VWs so for a GTI owner, it should be familar on the inside, be it an A5, Q5 or RS5 (when I was looking at an RS5 the other day).

Can't say the same for the bone heads at Audi Centre Brisbane though, who have their noses stuck so far up their a$$..... I suppose it is the same if you walk into a Lexus dealer and get told the whole "we are different to Toyota"

[T Go]

Big thing about the A3 2.0T quattro is that it is quicker (6.7s v 6.9s 0-100km/h) than the GTI despite being 200kg heavier .... AWD advantage .....in stock its not a a R competitor directly, but add a K04 and its dead equal performance wise to the R .... its like a R-lite but for more money ....

Surely the claimed 0-100km that VAG supply are due to them not wanting the GTI to step on the toes of the Audi?
I've seen figures ranging from 6.2 to 6.9 for the GTI (I know there are alot of variables in this).

[Finance_Analyst]

Not to mention how much harder it is to launch an AWD car - I bet the GTI would win a drag most times out of ten

[dave_r]

You're doing it wrong! LC is ftw!
T/C off + DSG in Sport = anyone can do it.

Unlike LC in my last car (XR6T) which didn't work for ****, just felt like the rear end wanted to part company with the vehicle.

[Corey_R]

Not to mention how much harder it is to launch an AWD car - I bet the GTI would win a drag most times out of ten

Not at the traffic lights... using LC in both cars, the AWD will mean the R will initially pull away and still be ahead by the time you reach the posted speed limit.
But on a drag strip, yeah, the GTI has enough room to start catching up. So if you have a GTI with K04 setup to match the R with its K04 setup, the GTI is going to give the R owners stress. Thus far of our forum members, a K04 GTI has the best time at the strip...

(K04 only... excluding any Stage 3/4 cars)

[hooba]

Audi A3 and S3 are made in Germany.
Source:
Audi S3 Car Info - Car Research - carsales.com.au

[sh|tbmxrider]

Really, dry sump, don't you use light weight graphite powder in place of oil???

ummm, no! Well not usually anyway, I hope.

Nor would I suggest to run quali laps with low oil level to save weight and reduce oil churning power losses as an earlier post suggested by the inuendo'd 'kid'.

Competition work usually sees an increase to oil volume to protect against so many heavy use issues I couldn't help myself.
Too subtle it seems. Oh well. next time, maybe?

Im amazed noone else has picked you up on your lack of knowledge, but hey...

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