Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[triode12]

Camrys are what you drive when you're ready to get old and die.

Or Asian...[Not being racist that because I'm Asian]

[SilvrFoxX]

Mine is shinier than yours ..

[elephino]

Love the pissing contest though. My golf is better than your golf. Blah

My Golf IS better than your Golf....but only because it is mine and therefore I can drive it. I doubt I'll be allowed to drive your Golf

[DoggieHowser]

Dealt with a million times before. R need to shift to third. WRX doesn't need it. It is meaningless on the street (as in completely meaningless) and everyone is well aware that a WRX is damn quick but not as nice inside.

I didn't buy an R for going in straight lines to exactly 100 and then stopping.

You missed my point. Isn't this a big discrepancy between what VW is claiming?

[Ideo]

You missed my point. Isn't this a big discrepancy between what VW is claiming?

It’s about right for a Golf R manual – slower to 100 than a DSG. Also, different mags get different figures all the time. I take them with a grain of salt – for example for my old S3 I read figures of between 6.1 and 7.1 depending on publication. So many variables and it is really not that much of a relevant test of performance. It’s just something for teenage boys to debate over. Let’s face it. If you do those kind of starts all the time you will kill at least component of your drivetrain.

[triode12]

The VW Golfer's Creed

This is my Golf. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My Golf is my best friend. It is my life. I must drive it as I must drive my life.
My Golf, without me, is useless. Without my Golf, I am useless. I must drive my Golf true. I must drive faster than my enemy who is trying to out run me. I must pass him before he passes me. I will...
My Golf and myself know that what counts in this challenge is not the tune we use, the noise of our exhaust, nor the smoke it makes. We know that it is the shutdowns * we make that count. We will shut them down...
My Golf is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its DVs and its Coilpacks. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my Golf clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...
Before God, I swear this creed. My Golf and myself are the defenders of my e-penis. We are the masters of our MFD. We are the savers of our dyno result sheets.
So be it, until all cars are VWs and there is no others, but VWs!

*To shutdown someone is to outrun them in a drag race

[adzy]

Check out the Boy Luff's driving style.No flat shifting,cruching ripple strips or extraneous hand movements-just blindingly quick.
Does it every time in about 2 laps from cold in cars he's never driven before.I think it's called "talent".
Don't you just hate people like that.....
P.S.Thanks for the end credit Guy.Royalties to the usual address..
Cheers
Len

Thats the quickest way to drive, smooth gentle inputs without unsettling the chassis

[Mountainman]

huh?? I don't see what you're getting at?? In reality the Suby's have nothing on the VW.
From factory (ie no mods) the WRX has nothing on the R. The STI is quicker, but not by lots. Whereas the Subys are severely lacking the WOW factor.

What am I getting at? Exactly as I stated - no wonder the APR rush is popular with the new WRX spanking the GTI / R in acceleration like that.
In reality the Suby's have nothing on the VW? Huh? A second over the quarter on the R and almost 2 seconds to 100 over the manual GTI is hardly nothing.
WOW factor? Well it appears to me from the figures above that it is worth a WOW.

[Mountainman]

It's been discussed many times I'm pretty sure. The WRX gets to 100km/h in 2nd gear whereas the GTI/R needs to shift into third to hit the hundred mark. That affects the time quite a bit I would imagine

But that doesn't explain why the WRX is a second quicker to 400m than an R when they would both be in 4th gear at that stage.

[Mountainman]

Dealt with a million times before. R need to shift to third. WRX doesn't need it. It is meaningless on the street (as in completely meaningless) and everyone is well aware that a WRX is damn quick but not as nice inside.

I didn't buy an R for going in straight lines to exactly 100 and then stopping.

I wasn't talking about all the positives of the GTI / R over the WRX either and I don't think anyone buys any of them just for their straightline 0-100 effort. They all have multi-talents for spirited, fun driving. All I was illustrating was the results of the recent "Wheels" tests and remarking on why it is easy to see why Golf fanbois find a visit to APR desirable to get up to speed.