Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[ethosguy]

I've read you can heel and toe in the manual, but that's a very short duration using both inputs together. Everything I've been able to find so far (haven't searched for you link yet) suggests that the throttle body would close after a couple seconds on the brakes irrespective of what you're doing with the throttle.

In a Tiguan manual you can heal and toe but can't say activate the brake lights by lightly appling the brake and accelerate..you'd get a jab but not long enough for controlling a car in a corner.
I've asked if the R was the same and didn't get a reply from someone who might own one.

[Corey_R]

You are of course correct. What I should have said is can you keep the engine under load using the throttle and the brake together in order to keep the car on boost as you're braking. I'm still not sure. I've read you can heel and toe in the manual, but that's a very short duration using both inputs together. Everything I've been able to find so far (haven't searched for you link yet) suggests that the throttle body would close after a couple seconds on the brakes irrespective of what you're doing with the throttle.

In any case it sounds like the DSG and the manual work the same way. Very different philosophy to an Evo.

Yeah, you cannot keep your foot on the brake, otherwise the override is activated after a certain number of seconds. But as you mentioned, this is the case for DSG and manual.

[Mr_Bob]

I've not had any issues heel-toeing in the manual,

Haven't tried left foot braking and trying to keep the turbo spooled simultaneously.
not sure if my left foot braking skills are up to the task yet...more practise needed!

[bcm]

Go find a weekend motorkhana. Slow speed environment where you normally end up in one gear for a while . Perfect place to practice. Worst you can do normally is take out some cones.

[dave_r]

Go find a weekend motorkhana. Slow speed environment where you normally end up in one gear for a while . Perfect place to practice. Worst you can do normally is take out some cones.

Good advice there, various car clubs have them regularly. Have gone to DECA in Vic at least once with every new car I've ever had.

[MkVIGTI]

elisiX, to engage LC in the DSG, you'll have to drop the box into Sports mode, then turn off ESP (read traction control). After that it's just left foot on brake and right foot flooring the throttle. This will allow you to build revs up to about 3000rpm and when you lift your foot off the brake, the clutch will engage and off you go!

As to the left foot braking to keep the engine on boost, if you have the gearbox in S, doesn't the automatic downshifts keep the engine on boost anyway?

[AdamD]

[T]o engage LC in the DSG, you'll have to drop the box into Sports mode, then turn off ESP (read traction control). After that it's just left foot on brake and right foot flooring the throttle. This will allow you to build revs up to about 3000rpm and when you lift your foot off the brake, the clutch will engage and off you go!

You can put it into Sport or push the lever across to manual - either's good.

I've read quite a few posts that suggest the ideal point for a good launch is 2400rpm with a GTI - at least a stocker. Not sure how that'd change with a stage 1 - maybe 200-400 rpm less.

Apparently (one user has reported this - I haven't dug up the link, sorry) - once you are sitting there ready to launch (TC off, sport/manual mode, on brake, on throttle), you can then re-enable the traction control (by pressing the button) and get a traction-controlled launch. I have not tried this personally (I've not even done a hard launch in my car yet), but if anyone else does, please feel free to report back!

[Corey_R]

I've not even done a hard launch in my car yet

*Corey_R slaps AdamD

What are you waiting for! This is your homework for tonight. Go out and use your Launch Control and fully experience the awesomeness that is your car! hehe

[fuzion]

quick launches in AWD is hit and miss in manual.

as ive learnt from the s3, all you can do is be lucky when you take of and kill your clutch .. i wouldnt advise it.

option b (for those who have enough of it, aka power) you can just take off spinning the wheels instead.. *grin* ..
thanks to GIAC Extreme Tune which helps on this lol

[dave_r]

What are you waiting for! This is your homework for tonight. Go out and use your Launch Control and fully experience the awesomeness that is your car! hehe

I'm sure Adam will happily oblige if you provide a video of your new R doing the same infront of the dealership