Golf R -v- Golf GTI

**WhiteJames** · 04-12-2010, 02:38 PM

Great video ad I came across that highlights all I been saying about electronic differential lock (EDL) for slow speeds & extended differential lock (XDL) for higher speeds on the FWD Golf GTI and Polo GTI.

YouTube - 2011 Volkswagen Polo GTI

EDL/XDS - although not a proper LSD - does have advantages in that it saves weight & can be used proactively based on computers and mathematical calculations. The Ferrari 458 Italia uses an E-diff, to my understanding, it's like a sideways Haldex system on the rear diff with computer & hydraulics controlling the oil forced against the clutches to control drive to each rear wheel, optimising traction out of corners. The new Maclaren Supercar MP4-12C has forgone an E-diff arrangement that Ferrari use - instead opting for an EDL/XDS setup to save weight (no hydraulics or clutchpacks to add weight).

Cheers
WJ

**SilvrFoxX** · 04-12-2010, 02:46 PM

So how does that relate to comparisons between the GTI and the R..?

**G-rig** · 04-12-2010, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by dave_r

Go buy an R already

Wouldn't mind one.. but apparently the Polo GTI is better.

ps. was just kidding btw

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**Pepe** · 04-12-2010, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by SilvrFoxX

So how does that relate to comparisons between the GTI and the R..?

The relevance is the vid of a Polo... oh wait.

**Fab_R** · 04-12-2010, 06:33 PM

This is draining my life....

**WhiteJames** · 04-12-2010, 08:08 PM

Watch the video's and you be the judge.

AWD
YouTube - Golf R drifting on ice
YouTube - Golf R drift on ice

LSD
YouTube - VW Golf R iMOTOR Review

XDS
YouTube - 2011 Volkswagen Polo GTI

See if I can find a video of a GTI on snow with XDS - shouldn't be too much different from the Polo GTI given both are FWD with EDL/XDS.
Cheers
WJ

**dave_r** · 04-12-2010, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by WhiteJames

The new Maclaren Supercar MP4-12C has forgone an E-diff arrangement that Ferrari use - instead opting for an EDL/XDS setup to save weight (no hydraulics or clutchpacks to add weight).

LOL, so GTI = MP4-12C?

Originally Posted by G-rig

ps. was just kidding btw

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I know

**lincs** · 05-12-2010, 12:11 AM

ferraris and mclaren supercars mentioned in a golf thread.

108 pages going strong!

r > gti

can someone tell whitejames that they're just golfs?

**SilvrFoxX** · 05-12-2010, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by lincs

ferraris and mclaren supercars mentioned in a golf thread.

108 pages going strong!

r > gti

can someone tell whitejames that they're just golfs?

Leave WJ alone.. aside the bias for the GTI and obvious lust for the R his posts are interesting and informative.. and to correct you, they are not just Golfs

**WhiteJames** · 05-12-2010, 11:45 AM

Some of the Golf R guys are complaining I've been giving the Polo GTI too much attention. Here's a local review from drive.com.au of the Golf R against the hero hatches:

White heat: Focus RS v WRX STI v Golf R

Volkswagen Golf R review | hot-hatches

If the Golf R ain't hard enough when compared against a Focus RS or STI ... Nothing a set of aftermarket coilovers and aftermarket adjustable sway bars wouldn't fix.

Cheers
WJ