Golf R Observations and Questions

[DDTW]

How many kWs will the R be after stage 1 tune? Not 240kW right?

[shakespeare]

yes all very true....

But weewilly, you know the mod bug will bite, and you will want more!!!

That's part of the reason I haven't started yet modding :p Also taking the family to Vic for skiing this year so will wait and see if I have any spare cash after that!!

[weewilly]

yes all very true....

But weewilly, you know the mod bug will bite, and you will want more!!!

been bitten with no know antidote... shaving .5 seconds off quarter mile not of interest to me but,
I know there are those who choose not to want more noise, they want to be low key, travel under the radar... Thats not me, I want Vader to rattle windows as I drive by, kids to cower with fear and old men to bleed from their ears.

[thezoneR32]

I had the Stage 1 tune done today..... DSG does less dropping of gears whilst pottering around at ~60km/h around town. And when you put it in M and take off... well, it's just like Fab_R's Stage 1 times would suggest

When I test drove the R, turbo lag was my main issue, if what you're saying is true, its a shame I can't test drive an APR'd one. Actually.........what if I were to arrange a test drive, take it to the APR dealer (literally 5 mins from VW) and get a trial tune! A bit cheeky but, hey maybe I'll be interested in buying one. Funny tho, the 2 or 3 guys that test drive it after me will think it stonks out of the box, order one and when they received theirs (in 9 months) they'll be going back to the dealer complaining that their new car is not as quick as the demo one they drove!

[runningmanz]

Ok so I am currently having a running verbal stoush with a work colleague who drives a 2002 Porsche Boxster. He reckons I'm full of it telling him that an APR stage one Golf R can achieve 0-100 in 4.7 seconds even after showing the g-tech evidence online. Says something along the lines of " a full second difference with a software ECU mod.... pffft...NO WAY mate..." Refuses to believe it or Fab_R's time of 4.3 with APR stage 2. Man I wish this guy could be taken for a spin in your R Fab! Would love to see him eat some humble pie...

[Fab_R]

I want Vader to rattle windows as I drive by, kids to cower with fear and old men to bleed from their ears.

Stage II + will provide you with this

[Corey_R]

How many kWs will the R be after stage 1 tune? Not 240kW right?

Yes, 240kw and 435Nm. These are engine dyno numbers (same as VW's 188kw/330nm), not wheel numbers.

When I test drove the R, turbo lag was my main issue, if what you're saying is true, its a shame I can't test drive an APR'd one. Actually.........what if I were to arrange a test drive, take it to the APR dealer (literally 5 mins from VW) and get a trial tune! A bit cheeky but, hey maybe I'll be interested in buying one. Funny tho, the 2 or 3 guys that test drive it after me will think it stonks out of the box, order one and when they received theirs (in 9 months) they'll be going back to the dealer complaining that their new car is not as quick as the demo one they drove!

It's STILL going to drive differently to the R, and there is still "lag" there. There is just less of it, and then WAY more oomph when you're in the powerband.

As for taking the demo up to APR... that'd be pretty dishonest! If both the dealer and the APR dealership were made aware of it then it'd be ok, but yeah...
The other thing you could do is give the local APR dealership a call, and see whether they have an R themselves. If they dont, maybe they could take your number and give it to one of their happy customers who may be ok with meeting up and taking you for a drive...

Ok so I am currently having a running verbal stoush with a work colleague who drives a 2002 Porsche Boxster. He reckons I'm full of it telling him that an APR stage one Golf R can achieve 0-100 in 4.7 seconds even after showing the g-tech evidence online. Says something along the lines of " a full second difference with a software ECU mod.... pffft...NO WAY mate..." Refuses to believe it or Fab_R's time of 4.3 with APR stage 2. Man I wish this guy could be taken for a spin in your R Fab! Would love to see him eat some humble pie...

Lol @ the Porsche guy...
1) He drives an NA and may not be familiar with turbo cars. There is WAY more to be gained from chipping OEM turbo cars than OEM NA cars... whether BMW, Porsche, Audi, whoever.
2) He's just jealous because a hatchback costing a 1/3 of his car is quicker

[Fab_R]

Ok so I am currently having a running verbal stoush with a work colleague who drives a 2002 Porsche Boxster. He reckons I'm full of it telling him that an APR stage one Golf R can achieve 0-100 in 4.7 seconds even after showing the g-tech evidence online. Says something along the lines of " a full second difference with a software ECU mod.... pffft...NO WAY mate..." Refuses to believe it or Fab_R's time of 4.3 with APR stage 2. Man I wish this guy could be taken for a spin in your R Fab! Would love to see him eat some humble pie...

Lol...give me his address, im Geelong a fair bit, happy to take him for a hell ride. (Seriously though i will take him for a spin)

Took a mate for a drive who has a VT GTS with an LS7 fully spec'd to do track days...serious car this..about 350RWKW this thing, its an animal.
He admitted that the R was quicker after a drive of it!

He then went on to say to get this thing at the next track day!!!!

[runningmanz]

Yes, 240kw and 435Nm. These are engine dyno numbers (same as VW's 188kw/330nm), not wheel numbers.



It's STILL going to drive differently to the R, and there is still "lag" there. There is just less of it, and then WAY more oomph when you're in the powerband.

As for taking the demo up to APR... that'd be pretty dishonest! If both the dealer and the APR dealership were made aware of it then it'd be ok, but yeah...
The other thing you could do is give the local APR dealership a call, and see whether they have an R themselves. If they dont, maybe they could take your number and give it to one of their happy customers who may be ok with meeting up and taking you for a drive...




Lol @ the Porsche guy...
1) He drives an NA and may not be familiar with turbo cars. There is WAY more to be gained from chipping OEM turbo cars than OEM NA cars... whether BMW, Porsche, Audi, whoever.
2) He's just jealous because a hatchback costing a 1/3 of his car is quicker

yeah the crazy thing is he is a smart guy and actually used to have one of the fastest Nissan Exa's modified himself in the country years back and now races and builds drag motorbikes nationally. He knows alot about cars, just one of your typical skeptics I guess. Don't understand his attitude at all in face of the evidence, but maybe Fab can change his mind lol

[DDTW]

Yes, 240kw and 435Nm. These are engine dyno numbers (same as VW's 188kw/330nm), not wheel numbers.

2) He's just jealous because a hatchback costing a 1/3 of his car is quicker

Oh man....$1600 for +52kW & +105Nm is a freaggin steal!!!!!!! Okay will get this done maybe after 1 year.....or depends on when my wallet permits

LoL 2002 Boxter would only cost $25k now?