golf R

[Lima]

GTIs were spotted months and months in advance. The Golf Wagon (as it will be called in Australia, I believe) is due for launch in March. At least that was the case last I heard.

[G-rig]

Trouble is, the S3 must have some sort of torque or rev limiter in first gear too. When I had the S3 on the skidpan, even with ESP double switched off, I couldn't get any initial wheel spin, the car would just bog down.

Was awesome fun powersliding out of corners though (eve if you had to induce oversteer with the handbrake, haha).

That's what i found, the AWD system is great and was hard to get the car out of shape. Guy had the haldex in his A3 Quattro and was able to do four wheel drifting a little easier.

To be honest i've never noticed much difference with ESP on or off..

[fuzion]

pricing is approx $67k onroad from my sources..

close to a passat cc!

[elisiX]

If that's true P, then i'll be even happier with my GTI purchase

How you doing mate? (It's Jay in case you have forgotten lol)

[G-rig]

pricing is approx $67k onroad from my sources..

close to a passat cc!

That must be with a fair few options? 10k more than an R32 & same as S3 doesn't sound right.

I agree if it ridiculously priced then the GTI will be better value.

[elisiX]

I guess it all depends on what is standard on the R. If it was specified as per the GTI, i'd expect pricing to be 15k more at about $55-57k

However if its specified with leather and xenon for example standard, then it'll be anywhere up to and exceeding a $20k difference.

[Lima]

That must be with a fair few options? 10k more than an R32 & same as S3 doesn't sound right.

I agree if it ridiculously priced then the GTI will be better value.

Keep in mind the Golf R retails for more than an S3 in the UK. I know that's not comparing apples with apples, especially as Aus spec S3s get a lot more standard kit than UK deliveries do.

I reckon high 50s/low 60s will be the start price, plus on roads. Or around $7k(ish) less than an S3.

[G-rig]

I reckon high 50s/low 60s will be the start price, plus on roads. Or around $7k(ish) less than an S3.

Sounds about right, the S3 was about $10k more than the R32.

[dave_r]

Drove the S3...its just wrong. Couldn't get comfortable and really don't see how it has a huge price premium over the VW's. But did like the performance.

Drove the GTI...loved it. Within 10secs of sitting in the drivers seat I knew I was in the right place. So does that mean it was worthy of a purchase?

No...order placed for a Golf R

[tentacles1]

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...W-Golf/246779/

Comparison with the Focus RS and Megane 250. Surprising result considering the same magazine rated the Scirocco R above the Focus in a recent comparison.