Golf R 3 door/5 door speculation/information thread

[WhiteJames]

^Valid point. Important to note that Megane Cup LSD/Focus RS are aimed at the pointy end of the enthusiast spectrum. Golf R, if a bit dull, like most VW products these days, is not aiming to be so hard core.

Found another review that appears objective. I become worried when I hear all good or all bad of a product. This outlines plusses and minuses of the Golf R.

http://cars.uk.msn.com/reviews/artic...ntid=152178553

Conundrum of whether the Golf R's premium pricing is justified over the GTI has not been solved completely. As I suspect, when pushed consistently into the higher rev range, I expect the Golf R to use a good deal more fuel than the GTI. Have to keep that cylinder temperature cool with plenty of fuel on the Golf R with the big turbo and all. Another issue for me to consider is the ride of the Golf R. I found the Mark 6 GTI fabulous in ride/handling mix. Not perfect in terms of damping, requiring some extra rebound & compression on some roadways ... ACC should go far to fixing this. The Golf R on the other hand, is stated to ride 'firm' (esp with 19" wheels). If its firm in the U.K. It's definitely gonna be firm down here in Aus. Having said that, don't think the Golf R will be anyting like a Bilstein PSS10 or KW V3 in terms of firmness.

Cheers.
WJ

[G-rig]

LOL... how many parameters would you like to change to improve the result for the Golf R

For those thinking it's too refined, a retune, coilovers and exhaust would top it off nicely then it would be better than the others anyway whilst having the luxuries you expect. Stock for stock is a bit of a useless debate as these cars are detuned for AUS.

Does ACC dull the ride softer than standard or increase firmness, never really looked into it. Still doesn't improve wheel gap/cosmetics like aftermarket solutions.

What have you decided today WJ? I know what it's like .

[Baxter]

Still doesn't improve wheel gap/cosmetics like aftermarket solutions.

Agreed there.

Something to think about

[G-rig]

Here is a photoshop ZZ2 did with the OZ Ultras (had them on my MK5) which would suit it too a tee, with more straight lines on the MK6. Would buy those wheels again fairly quickly (or the Superturismos). Most of the factory options are just pissing money away and not sure if ACC is a gimmick or not. Dont mind the stock Talladega's but not 100% convinced - good because they are something new.

Shown at standard height:

[G-rig]

Some more options:

[fuzion]

options that haven't been done

bbs's
oz's
optioned alloys

can ppl not look outside of the box lol .. dpe, hre, iforge's.. plenty of other good choice of designs and wheels out there!

you can get the update led tail lights for any mk6 now as well tho.

soon the bars will be an option or can be imported, only thing will be the awd lol

[G-rig]

options that haven't been done

bbs's
oz's
optioned alloys

can ppl not look outside of the box lol .. dpe, hre, iforge's.. plenty of other good choice of designs and wheels out there!

Who cares if they have been done or not. You don't actually see many on the streets it's all the internet pics and in the US etc. I have still only seen two Golfs in BNE with RS4 reps over the past year or two.

DPE and HRE are pretty expensive, you shouldnt spend more than 10% of the cars value on wheels :.

What did you have on your nice red MKIV? Hope you get your money back on the wheels.

[fuzion]

Who cares if they have been done or not. You don't actually see many on the streets it's all the internet pics and in the US etc. I have still only seen two Golfs in BNE with RS4 reps over the past year or two.

DPE and HRE are pretty expensive, you shouldnt spend more than 10% of the cars value on wheels :.

What did you have on your nice red MKIV? Hope you get your money back on the wheels.

I forget that your in BNE and you guys basically see fark all up there (seriously) .. In sydney you see a mk5 with ch's daily almost now! copies or genuine no matter these days you still see them. BBS lm's the same and so forth.

rs4 reps, dude i think 2/5 vag cars almost have these on in sydney honestly! i saw 4 alone today inc a customers as well!

Im sorry if you're not willing to "spend" money on your vehicle however people who like to mod/tune or waste money if you like to make their cars 'individual' tend to do these things. If you dont that is your choice dude.

before you try have a smart response on my wheels, a) i paid hell of a lot less then you would ever guess or from retail and were s/h, and b) i would get a new set for the sake of how GOOD the quality is alone minus how much i like their designs. from experience in working at wheel/tyre places and seeing issues/flaws with cheaper wheels i am very sceptical buying some reps! (however good reps are out there of course!)

but as the saying goes, all cars are a waste of money regardless of what you do. its a hobby/labour of love .. something we all enjoy!

[Baxter]

I have still only seen two Golfs in BNE with RS4 reps over the past year or two.

I'd love to see a black and a white R with the RS4 wheels.. sweet!

[WhiteJames]

Price aside ... the choice between the GTI -v- R would still be difficult.

I think the GTI looks better with the understated look, red stripe and polished with black inserts on the Detriot wheels (18"). Also favour lighter weight, better economy, newer EA888 tech motor of the MK6 GTI that has addressed the issues with the EA113 motor, the more simplistic driveline, and of course the XDS in the medium to faster corners.

The Golf R is certainly a step up in performance. Like the repsonsive higher compression motor, bigger turbo that pulls up to 6000rpm max power, bigger brakes, a chasis with greater balance front to rear and most importantly, AWD. XDS can never replace AWD, even if AWD is FWD come AWD when leaned on (unlike Audi RS models).

Once the R becomes known amost the greater community, I think it'd be the choice for carjacking theifs, possibly pushing up premiums as in the case of the WRX. Audi RS Wagons are a popular choice for car-jackers with room to put the booty in. Another issue brought up with an R32 owning friend is that younger ricers tailgate him or drive along side trying to incite a drag race. After a while, the novelty of the attention wears off, and he is looking for perhaps an understated Audi (5dr hatch) to prevent this sort of thing happening on a regular basis. Every man in his EVO or STI will be looking for reassurance against an R owner.

Bring pricing into it ... I think the brakes on the R are worth 1.5K and the AWD worth an additional 3.5K over my specced up GTI. Perhaps 5K which means 55K for a 5 door DSG Golf R.

Resale on the R will be higher, but this may be negated over time with extra servicing & possibly insurance costs in the longer term.

ACC to my understanding: Can be set to comfort. In normal it drops to comfort at lower speeds, normal at medium speeds and sport at faster speeds. It appears that the dampers may sense the driver inputs and roadway conditions and adjust accordingly ... but only when in normal mode. Still a bit obscure on the adjustability on the fly in normal mode. I reckon its worth the $1500 asking price. Audi charge $2400 for magnetic dampers on the A3 Sportback.

Cheers.
WJ