They claimed that you got 85% of the thrills of the GT3 in the 250 for 15% of the price
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Yeah WTF, 911 GT3 isn't even in the same category or price range.
The Megane RS250 would be a good drive!
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They claimed that you got 85% of the thrills of the GT3 in the 250 for 15% of the price
MY07 Polo GTI APR'd - Gone!
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its actually not such a silly comparison.. Many people would probly consider the GT3 as the benchmark in Daily driveable trackday weapons. You wouldnt expect either car to beat it on the track but comparisons would be interesting.
I think the R is always gonna come off second best in many of these reviews due to its compromised design ethos. In standard form it will always be a jack of all trades/master of none.
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Exactly. I've been in a few Meganes over the years, and regardless of how many of these reviews come up, it just would not be an option for me. Their ride and comfort and 'luxuries' are just too compromised in my opinion, to make up for the better 'track performance'.Originally Posted by Tim
Volkswagenist
That means the GTI is also a Jack of all trades, but agree I couldn't be bothered getting a megane as it wouldn't be as practical or comfortable around the streets which is where most people would drive them 99% of the time.
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Switching off the Golf 'R' ESC switch allows for a greater degree of slip angle, but as stated, does not completely disengage the ESC. For a track car, this may not be a great thing to have. For the public roadway, shouldn't make much difference.
The thread below relates to Robbie's Audi S3 5 door Sportback DSG. He does 7-10 laps before DSG overheats and goes into limp mode. Not sure if this problem will rear it's head in the Golf 'R'.
http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110512
The link below is the latest USA review from Car & Driver. They indicate that VW, like BMW with there 135ci with twin turbo six, did away with the fog lamps, replacing them with air vent to keep things cool underneath. Big turbos or twin turbo do generate a bit of heat, esp in Aus conditions.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t_drive_review
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WJ
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Correct. The GTI is definately a jack of all trades. Why do you think we spend so much money trying to improve on them?
Renault, Porsche, BMW and probably others all do "Track inspired" cars and manage to charge more for them. Why cant VW have a crack?!
Volkswagenist
I'm not disagreeing, but think VW would have to make the car a bit more 'raw', do some weight saving and possibly sacrifice some of the comforts/luxuries.
Those who are after a real track inspired car would probably forego a few of the the luxuries etc. that are common to all models. May cut out a lot of the potential buyers I guess but could be a bit more racebread IMO.
I was also saying that the GTI would be just as much fun for less mula perhaps.
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Why not have a base GTI at 35k RRP, then a better "options list" that ran in the way of luxury/composure/all round or hardcore.
For instance one way you go leather, sat nav, sun roof, park assist.
The other way you go from the VW motorsport catalogue (on the UK website) and get the motorsport 18s, race inspired suspension, freer exhaust and intake, meatier pads etc. Fully optioned you get around the 53-55k on road mark?
Then the R is your combination of both for 59kRRP ??
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Hmmm - not sure that would work... a fully optioned GTI (5dr) would actually be $71k on the road (before negotiation).....
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