Golf GTI Mark VI Specifications and Prices

[Mi16 Man]

M16 , which dealership ?

Go and see the good folks at Gerald Slaven VW here in Canberra. Trent and Philip are great to deal with.

[kash_0]

Hi Guys,

Went to do some negotiating today, been quoted the following with corporate discount (car in stock)

Candy White 5 Door DSG
Sunroof
Leather
Detroits
MDI (ipod cable included)
RVC
Electric Driver Seats
Tints

Dealer won't budge from 51.9K (driveaway)

Thoughts?

[chopper]

Dealer won't budge from 51.9K (driveaway)

Thoughts?

Too much me thinks... especially given you qualify for a Corporate Discount.

I think RRP (without the usual Dealer Delivery & Stamp Duty etc.) as a drive away price is reasonable! They still make enough money!

I paid less than RRP as the drive away price, and I didn't qualify for a Corporate Discount.

... however, I have to wait until July!

[Corey_R]

Well, RRP on that configuration is $51,160....

[chopper]

Well, RRP on that configuration is $51,160....

I know people are paying a small premium to get immediate delivery, but are they paying over $700 more than RRP WITH a Corporate Discount?

I though it was too much, but if that's what people are paying, happy to concede!

[Corey_R]

Um no... they are paying less obviously

Because included in "drive away" costs, which is what you have to pay is:
$312 registration, which goes to the RTA (could be $459 if for business use)
$92 for the plain black text on white number plates, which goes to the RTA (could be as high as $400 if opting for Euro plates)
$461 for CTP which goes to Allianz (variable depending on person)
$1,785 of stamp duty which goes to the NSW Government.

Plus you have dealer delivery.
But my point is, those 4 items above come to a minimum of $2650 - none of that can be discounted as all of it goes to organisations which aren't VW or the dealer. You then have the dealer delivery, which varies from dealer to dealer, and contrary to most people's beliefs, not all of THAT goes to the dealers either (since it is actually more than a "car wash" and they have to pay various people, depending on which dealer it is again). Which is why corporate discount doesn't completely remove the dealer delivery and instead is $995.

So since the RRP without onroads is $51,160, and the above is $2650 and the dealer delivery (after corporate) is $995, that means that he's paying $2905 under RRP for the car. (51900-51160-2650-995=-2905)


So I'm not saying that the current dealer being offered is great - but at ~7.82% (using the calculator, total discount ~$4,405.00), it's not bad either.

[chopper]

Um no... they are paying less obviously

Because included in "drive away" costs, which is what you have to pay is:
$312 registration, which goes to the RTA (could be $459 if for business use)
$92 for the plain black text on white number plates, which goes to the RTA (could be as high as $400 if opting for Euro plates)
$461 for CTP which goes to Allianz (variable depending on person)
$1,785 of stamp duty which goes to the NSW Government.

Plus you have dealer delivery.
But my point is, those 4 items above come to a minimum of $2650 - none of that can be discounted as all of it goes to organisations which aren't VW or the dealer. You then have the dealer delivery, which varies from dealer to dealer, and contrary to most people's beliefs, not all of THAT goes to the dealers either (since it is actually more than a "car wash" and they have to pay various people, depending on which dealer it is again). Which is why corporate discount doesn't completely remove the dealer delivery and instead is $995.

So since the RRP without onroads is $51,160, and the above is $2650 and the dealer delivery (after corporate) is $995, that means that he's paying $2905 under RRP for the car. (51900-51160-2650-995=-2905)


So I'm not saying that the current dealer being offered is great - but at ~7.82% (using the calculator, total discount ~$4,405.00), it's not bad either.

Yes... all true, however my own opinion and my point on this is,

The Margin on the BASE car is $2,500 (apparently), which pretty much covers the "On Roads",

The "Hold Back" is around $1,500... all profit!

Options on the car are around 10%-20% mark up (apparently), and most cars have SOME options fitted (yes... they lose 3% on the Stamp Duty, but the rest is profit). By my calcs, the car has AT LEAST $800 in margin in the options on this car... most probably more!

I understand (from a VW dealer!) the "real" cost of Dealer Delivery is about $300 (man hours for a full PD, charged out at workshop rates and fuel) and,

Kash gets a corporate discount, not to mention if they hit target...

I figure they would be making at least $4,500 profit from the car on that deal, plus whatever bonus' are derived if they make targets.

I agree, everyone has to make a dollar, but there is a bit of competition out there if you look, and there will be a dealer out there who is willing to make a lot less than $4,500 on the deal, provided you are flexible with the options if you want a car now!

I don't know what others are paying for the car... I just know what I was prepared to pay and what I think is too much.

[AdamD]

I figure they would be making at least $4,500 profit from the car on that deal, plus whatever bonus' are derived if they make targets.

Remember that a dealership has many more expenses than those that can be attributed to delivering a single car. There are salaries to pay, staff to train, premises to purchase/rent/maintain, advertising, the expense of maintaining depreciating stock... the list goes on. These are all significant costs, and come before any profit is made.

My 2c - a discount exceeding 7% for a car in stock is not a bad deal. kash_0 might be able to manage a better deal, but either way, I personally wouldn't be disappointed with that price.

[MiiLos]

Finally put an order on a GTI guys!!

3DR GTI
Pearl Black
Manual
Sunroof
Dark Tint
Dynaudio
MDI
Bluetooth
Bi-Xennons
18" Detroits

$45.5K drive away! Very happy! (No corporate discount).

[markwid]

$45.5K drive away! Very happy! (No corporate discount).

Exceptional deal! You really took them to the edge. I don't think you can do any better.