Golf GTI Mark VI Specifications and Prices

[Sharkie]

Bottom line here guys ..... whilst there are more buyers than cars available there will be no discounting (or negotiating) on price.

Expect at least 12 months before you will be able to negotiate a price on a new GTI with a dealer.

Everybody that paid a deposit to be in the queue early has exactly that ... an early option to get into a new GTI. If your contract said subject to an acceptable price (as mine does) then it comes down to this ......
if you don't like the price, you can walk away and get your deposit back.

Nowhere does it say you can negotiate to get a better price .... .... Dealer discount and Corporate discount will not be available initially.The best you may hope for is a few small freebies or a small spec inclusion (as in inexpensive) on a dealer pre-ordered car.

Expect to pay full RRP for a while .......

[g20]

i was told corporate discount is available?

[pologti18t]

I based my deposit on the fact that the vehicle was not going to be readily available when initially released. When I paid my deposit my dealer could not give me an official price, or an official list of accessories or extras. So I paid my deposit so I could be "in the queue" for when these details became available.

Do people often join a queue when they dont know what they are getting or how much they what they will pay for it? weird

Perhaps a MPS3 would be a better bet for you. No plethora of options and available with a discount at the moment.

[Sharkie]

Do people often join a queue when they dont know what they are getting or how much they what they will pay for it? weird

It happens quite often actually ...... especially on "in demand" cars.

I ordered the Mk6 R purely on the fact that I want the car. I'm accepting that I will likely have no negotiating power when it comes to purchasing time and that the dealer has me by the short and curly's ..... Within reason I'm prepared to pay full RRP .....

i was told corporate discount is available?

Better check/confirm with your dealer. Tiguans was off the Corporate Discount list for more than 12months after release and I believe CCs to be as well still. Noises I heard from my dealer (about 3 weeks ago now) was that it was not available on the MK6 GTIs either until further notice.

[Plopeye]

Do people often join a queue when they dont know what they are getting or how much they what they will pay for it? weird

Perhaps a MPS3 would be a better bet for you. No plethora of options and available with a discount at the moment.

You will find that quite a few ppl did just that by reading these forums. Lots of ppl paid a deposit with conditions to get in the queue. The beauty of that is if official details when available don't meet a particular critera the deposit is refundable.

Pity I find the mps an ugly car but cheers for the suggestion

[Corey_R]

Do people often join a queue when they dont know what they are getting or how much they what they will pay for it? weird

You find that with high end cars (Ferrari's, Aston Martin's, etc), that no only do people pay substantial deposits to be in queue for a car they may have to wait 2 years for, but people sometimes even sell their place in queue for a nice profit to other people who see the car close to release date but don't want to have to wait for 2 years for their car if they joined the end of the queue.

[pologti18t]

You will find that quite a few ppl did just that by reading these forums. Lots of ppl paid a deposit with conditions to get in the queue. The beauty of that is if official details when available don't meet a particular critera the deposit is refundable.

But this is the bit I dont understand. The price is essentially that of the outgoing MKV GTI, the options match those of the less golfs (so you could have put dynaudio on your wish list contract), the dealer has a car that matches your original criteria/contract. So, why didn't you buy it? Did you think that paying the deposit put you in the queue for any car you wanted irrespective of the specs? Or are you miffed because you weren't able to haggle on the price?

People still talk about the initial release of the MKV GTI. The wait times then were unbelievable and the prices were rock solid.

The trouble then and now is the plethora of factory options available. No way a manufacturer can keep a stock of all the variations in spec leading to huge waiting times. The Japs get around this buy offering cars with limited factory options or bundled option models. MPS3 is case in point. Two models (base and lux). All you get to choose is the colour.

VW should be congratulated for offering all these tastie options but it causes alot of pain for most buyers in longer lead times and forking out for options on available cars they don't want.

I sometimes think that VW would be better off selling two GTIs, A base model and a luxury one thats specced up, and reduce the number of individual factory options. For instance the GTI in the USA has LESS options available than our market

[Lima]

If MINI can manage an extensive and highly customisable options list in this country, then the comparatively minor offerings (albeit improving) by Volkswagen should be able to be managed. I suppose it comes down to customers being willing to wait for a custom order.

That said, your theory of a base spec and a "package" GTI with some of the more popular options (like the Chilli pack on the MINIs) is a pretty good idea.

[Corey_R]

But Mini have the same issue that VW does on brand new models. There is always more buyers than cars, and the prices on 'barely used 2nd hand models' are initially more expensive than brand new ones, which reflects this issue.

But yes, I do like the idea of the 'Chilli pack' for VW models too

[Plopeye]

But this is the bit I dont understand. The price is essentially that of the outgoing MKV GTI, the options match those of the less golfs (so you could have put dynaudio on your wish list contract), the dealer has a car that matches your original criteria/contract. So, why didn't you buy it? Did you think that paying the deposit put you in the queue for any car you wanted irrespective of the specs? Or are you miffed because you weren't able to haggle on the price?

Oh ok to clarify then at the time of deposit the dealer tells me he is basing the paper work on the outgoing mkV as you mentioned. And I was happy for him to do so. However what I am trying to say is that at that time nothing was official. At that time I also wanted 18 inch wheels but he told me the mk6 gti was not going to come with 18 inch wheels. I see where you are coming from regarding the dynaudio as well but regardless, even if I did opt for the dynaudio car at the time of deposit the exact spec of vehicle would not be available. The only cars with dynaudio according to my dealer are for those people who paid there deposit over 7 months ago.

So the 3 reasons I did not proceed with the purchase are and in order:
1) The vehicle in the spec I want is not available.
2) I want a car in or before Jan
3) No bargaining available.

Fair enough it has been made clear about point 3 that that is not a possibility apart from when it comes to dealer delivery. I did not know I could negotiate dealer delivery yesterday so I didnt push that issue. But even if the bargaining was available that leaves 2 other factors, or should i say terms of the contract which could not be met.

Now that I look back and know what i do now (compared to time of deposit because nothing was official) I realise it was a long shot for me to get what I was after re the mk6 gti. But thats what it is all about isnt it? Like I said to you previously, I am not going to settle on something without the options I want, thats just me I'm a picky b@stard

I know not everyone is going to agree with me with all of this and thats cool. I am just being open with everyone and sharing my experience because everyone here seems very helpful. I like these forums cos there is not many bashers in here like a previous honda forum I would frequent when I was in a honda. Also my experience is not over, nor was it a bad experience. The people in the VW dealership were fantastic, I can not talk highly enough about them which is why I this chapter has not left a bad taste in my mouth.