Ooh, they do look nice. I think we have seen them before too...
Ooh, they do look nice. I think we have seen them before too...
So does anyone know when the "Official" launch is meant to be?
I have heard a similar release, end of Oct/Early Nov. Allocated cars should be delivered middle of November as estimated.
It says on the official GTI site, that it'll be "released" in November.
My previous posts:
So I Went back to my VW dealer again today. During the week I drove a civic type R, WRX, MEgane and a clio. I felt as though my first drive in the GTI was better than the other cars but I Wanted a second shot at it.
Anyway I found the salesperson who let me test drive the mk5 gti last week and he was fine with me taking the same car for another drive. I told him I would only be 15 minutes but ended up being 30 - 40 mins. He was fine with it.
Initially the GTI felt slow (probably because I just drove the wrx) and I Was not as impressed as I was when i first drove it. But the longer I drove the vehicle the more I liked it. What it lacks in power (mind you the car has decent power anyway) it easily makes up in class, style and driveability.
I spoke to the salesmanager and I decided to pay a deposit on a mkvi gti. Not much more information was provided but they still expect the RRP of the vi to be approx 1k more than the 5. He worked out a rough price for me taking into consideration the options I prefer and paperwork was filled out to refelct our conversation.
While discussing the options of the vehicle the sales manager stated there will not be an 18inch wheel option and standard will be 17 inch. IMO that is disappointing because I liked the look of the 18s.
Anyway they feel confident they will call me up within 2 weeks to discuss the vehicle and finalize a price / options.
Yesterday I was also told that those people that have asked for a gti with no options are probably the ones that are going to have to wait the longest for their vehicles. He expects the majority of the batch hat is already on shore to be fitting with the non standard options.
Anyway I guess 1 thing is for sure. They are not 100% sure of he sale details at this stage, it is all speculation.
I must add the guys at my local VW store customer service is also fantastic.
do we know for sure there will be little room to move regarding negotiations for the gti? I find it unusual not to be able to negotiate a price for a new car. Ill definately have a crack when my dealer call me in to negotiate a price. It was funny because they acted like they have the sale when I gave my deposit. I did ensure one of the conditions of sale was "agreed pricing".
As mentioned yesterday I went in today (Tuesday) to my dealer to discuss the car I had on deposit. GTI, black, sunroof, DSG, leather, 5 dr.
When I arrived my salesman greeted me and adv me something had come up so he had to leave. He advised me the sales manager of the dealer would deal with me. I have met the sales manager several times because he has assisted the salesman as he is new to the dealer and industry.
So the sales manager told me my car will be available within a few weeks. I advised that is good news and we will see what happens. He then looked puzzled and said "what do you mean we will see. Are you going to buy or not". I told him I need to see a official price list and spec sheet etc prior to making my mind up and it is impossible to commit without doing so. He said I was in luck because all the prices and specs are now officially available and we went to his office.
So the total for my car with the above specs was $53,969 and would be available within the next 2 - 3 weeks. I told him that since I last saw him I would like the dynaudio upgrade as well. Reason being I spend a lot of time in my car and I am not the type of person to take out a system and insert a pioneer system. I would prefer a factory upgrade so to speak. He told me the only cars that came with the upgrade were ones ordered / deposited 7 mths and over ago. If I wanted this car with the upgraded stereo I would have to wait another 4 mths. (one of the conditions of the contract when I paid my deposit was for me not to wait longer than Jan for the car)
I said I can not give him an answer if I Was going to go ahead with the deal because "my ideal car" would have the stereo upgrade. He said he needs an answer by today because he ha 3 other ppl waiting for that specific car. I said I will sleep on it and to give me 24 hours, he was fine with that.
I then suggested he price my car for trade in value so I know exactly where I stand. At this stage no commitment has been made in any direction by myself. He was happy to do so.
With the dunaudio upgrade and my trade the difference was $39,321. The 4 month wait was something I could probably live with so I said to him, ok I am willing to discuss price and asked how flexible they are.
This is where it gets good.
He looked at me with a puzzled look and advised there is zero flexibility with new cars. I advised him I have never heard of anyone buying a car without any form of negotiation. He again said it is normal for new release cars to sell with no negotiations. I asked if this is a VW thing or a blanket scenario and he said if a new series car is released price is always firm. I then looked at him in a puzzled way (being the negotiator I am with every car I buy) and explained my history in buying cars. His reply was that the last 8 R8's he sold were all non negotiated prices. So this is something we did not agree on but anyway. The first rule of negotiating is to always be prepared to walk out so I told him that if there is no flexibility on price then he need not hold the vehicle for me and I dont want him to miss out on selling it to one of the other 3 proposed buyers. HE questioned my intention to purchase a car and I told him I am in the market for a new car but there will be some form of negotiation and we began to talk about the time frame the mk6 gti will probably start to reduce in price (1 year).
Furthermore to his question about my intentions to buy a car, he questioned my reasons in signing a contract. I replied back saying I was never aware I was signing a contract when I paid my deposit. He said it is a legally binding contract but he is willing to send a cheque with my deposit back to me. I said that is fine but even if it was a contract there was 3 conditions: delivery b4 Jan, Agreed value and the options mentioned above. I told him we did not agree on value therefore the "contract" can not be binding. He said agreed value is the value of the difference we worked out earlier. I told him my interpretation of "agreed value" is when both parties reach n agreement on the price of the vehicle, something that did not happen in this instance. He refused to acknowledge this. One thing I should have asked him is how can a contract be binding for a vehicle when at the time of deposit there was no official price list or spec sheet available.
The conversation became heated for a time being and then when we both realised we are again not going to agree we both calmed down. I thanked him because the service from his staff was spot on compared to everywhere else I went and I hoped that we could do business in the future. I advised I Was disappointed progress could not be made and I intentionally left negotiation and price mentioning until today because all information provided in the past was never official and everything was so hush hush.
He walked me to my car and we went our separate ways. I am glad I stuck to my guns and did not give in for what I believed in. The price was pretty much what I was expecting and we all know that it is going to be a good car. Anyway from here I'm going to give another dealer a crack hehe. If I find myself in the same predicamanet then hey, I am still in the market for a new car. Maybe if I can find myself a nice good example of a 2nd hand r32
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