Too funny Rex!! Dealers must have a great laugh reading these posts:icon_clap:
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Too funny Rex!! Dealers must have a great laugh reading these posts:icon_clap:
That's alright man - I don't need help car shopping. I walk in prepared without the need to come here and ask people whether my deal is alright. I also know the specs inside and out so that sales man can't "throw in for free", things which come standard with the car, like matts! lol. Based on what people have been able to achieve here on their cars, I'm very happy with the last few purchases I've made :)Quote:
Originally Posted by REXman
Fair enough guys, wasnt trying to offend anyone, just looking out for no1.
One question though. Say the Car is retailing at $41,490 atm (drive away).
If I was eligible for a corporate discount, would they go below that?.
I was actually thinking of a 5door manual. Im guessing thats $42,990 - $2,500 = ~40,490 (maybe 40k is manageable with that)
I went to the VW site and put the postcode of 3000 into the Golf price page.
It tells me the retail drive away cost is: $45,727.30 (40 y/o male with good driving record, no metallic paint, basic plates, etc).
This is what I'm trying to explain. The car isn't retailing for $41,490 drive away, that is the sale price. Volkswagen are paying all your own roads for you (or another way to look at them is, you are paying them still, but they've taken those costs off the cost of the car). Using a corporate discount won't necessarily help either, as one of the main areas which it gives you a discount is on the dealer deliver, which has already been removed from your price due to the sale (Volkswagen Group Australia will pay the dealer to cover the labour and materials costs involved in the dealer delivery etc).
If you're talking about a 5 door manual, then the on road price of that is $44,702.30 (again with same conditions as above). You would need to do the negotiations yourself rather than relying on the sale, but yes, you could get closer or even meet that $40k mark with that configuration. Having said that, if you were originally looking at the DSG, would you be happy with a manual? I wouldn't be :D
No offense is meant by these next comments (I've been there in the past too!), but seriously, if you $41,500 means you can't afford the car, yet $40,000 means you think you can, then I would say that you really can't afford the car. With insurance and running costs and service costs and depreciation etc, maybe it'd be better to look at base spec or moderately optioned 118TSI?
What makes you think being a 40 year old with a good driving record makes any difference to VW? You're buying a car, not insurance.Quote:
Originally Posted by coreying
Incorrect. When you are buying a car you ARE buying insurance! Compulsory Third-Party insurance is part of the on-road costs of every car sold! This is why the government has tried to help 'clarify' the price of cars by changing the laws in the last year. Because most people, yourself included, don't know how a new car's price is determined. For example, here is the exact VW disclaimer on their website price pages:Quote:
Originally Posted by THR
All other manufacturers have a similar disclaimer somewhere on their site or in the fine print.....Quote:
Disclaimer
*This is the manufacturer's recommended driveaway price. Available at participating dealers. Private buyers only. Price is based on a 40 year old male with a good driving record and for private use. The final price may vary according to your circumstances as confirmed by your dealer. Options and metallic paint available for an additional cost. Please see your local dealer to confirm your individual price.
"Comprehensive Third-Party insurance is part of the on-road costs"Quote:
Originally Posted by coreying
It is my understanding that (at least here in WA) Comprehensive Insurance (optional) is different from Third Party Insurance (compulsory – part of Licence and covering only person not property) or Third Party Insurance - property (optional).
My assumption was that Third Party Insurance (person) is part of onroad cost … not any other type of insurance and that any "comprehensive" insurance is optional… at least here in WA.
There's three different types of insurance getting muddled here. Compulsory Third Party (CTP) is what coreying meant when he said 'Comprehensive Third Party'. It only covers liability and medical expenses, e.g. if you injure someone (or yourself). In Western Australia and Victoria (where it's called the TAC charge IIRC) it's a fixed price, regardless of who you are or where you live, which you pay to the state government as part of your rego renewal. I've never lived in other states but presume the system must be slightly different there, which is why VW are covering their arses by saying "40-year-old man in middle class suburb" or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by MIRSAD
There's also ordinary Third Party insurance which you can buy from an insurance company like the RAC. It covers damage you do other people's property when driving. IMHO this is the minimum level of insurance that a responsible driver would be taking out. I drove for years with only third-party insurance because as a young driver without a no-claim bonus, insurance premiums were ridiculously high. This also provided encouragement to drive such that I wouldn't be in an accident that was my fault, because I couldn't have afforded to replace the car if I had!
And then there's Comprehensive Insurance, which is I suspect what pretty much everyone who owns a Mk6 Golf will have.
Ooops! Sorry guys... you're correct... I meant Compulsory Third Party insurance. Obviously there is no such thing as Comprehensive TP insurance ;)
Thank You,Quote:
Originally Posted by cameronp
It is my understanding... this is what confused me - “Comprehensive” (my English)… it means we are not behind Eastern states (exc Vic) we are just “different”