Golf GTD CONFIRMED FOR AUSTRALIA!!!

[iBoost]

If handling and engine flexibility were the issue you would go an R20 though, would you not?

The GTI used to be the drivers car, now its more of a daily that also has a bit of go when you put your foot down.
A GTD would be a more suitable daily in that case imho/

The GTD sounds like a good car, but not in the same league performance wise as the GTI imo. The GTI is still the bench mark hot hatch. If you want a diesel with some grunt though, sure.

The R is obviously superior to the GTI, however not everyone wants or has $60k+ to throw at a new car. Different price brackets.

[team_v]

The R is obviously superior to the GTI, however not everyone wants or has $60k+ to throw at a new car. Different price brackets.

Not that much price difference between an optioned up GTI and a R
Especially if you are going to do mods to the GTI to make it go better after purchase.


And Maverick, whilst the GTD is not in the same league as the GTI due to DPR restrictions (should be removed with a DPF delete), the GTI is also not in the same league as the R so juding by that everyone who is looking at a GTI should get an R.
For normal driving which is what most GTI's are now used for, the GTD will be a suitable equivalent.

There will be a few GTI's that are used for tracking and that would be a better option than the GTD, however the greater torque in the stock GTD should be more than ample enough to accelerate the thing up to the speed limit/allow ease of overtaking.

[STV4SYT]

The GTD sounds like a good car, but not in the same league performance wise as the GTI imo. The GTI is still the bench mark hot hatch. If you want a diesel with some grunt though, sure.

The R is obviously superior to the GTI, however not everyone wants or has $60k+ to throw at a new car. Different price brackets.

Im just changing from a GT TDI to mk6 GTI in the next couple of weeks. I have driven both back to back and i reckon its fair to make a comparison, the GTI is quicker off the line but once rolling, the extra torque of the diesel has a lot more push than the GTI out of corners. I would have either quite easily, but the GTI was available to order in decmber so i got into the investment allowance.

The 0-100 times are a about 1 second slower, but ultimately i wasnt doing the km to justify the diesel having just turned over 25,000 in a bit over 2 years.

[Maverick]

Not that much price difference between an optioned up GTI and a R

The GTI and R32 was around $8000 apart if you took into account the standard leather and bi-xenons which not everyone would want.

Assuming the difference is $8000 that's a fair chunk extra.

Especially if you are going to do mods to the GTI to make it go better after purchase.

Comparing apples with apples you would probably be doing the same mods to the R, even if you chipped the GTI it only adds $1000-2000 to the cost.

And Maverick, whilst the GTD is not in the same league as the GTI due to DPR restrictions (should be removed with a DPF delete), the GTI is also not in the same league as the R so juding by that everyone who is looking at a GTI should get an R.

Price difference between the GTD and GTI is less than $2000. Price difference between the GTI and R will be around $13,000 (assuming that Bi-xenons and leather are not wanted). If you chip the GTD all of a sudden the gap drops to $0 and you still have a slower car.

For less than $2000 more over the cost of a GTD you can buy a GTI that is a heap faster and lighter with better handling plus you can do a lot more to the GTI if you want to.

For normal driving which is what most GTI's are now used for, the GTD will be a suitable equivalent.

What were GTI's used for in the past?

The GTD is heavier, slower, suffers from DPF problems in traffic and takes more than 15kms to properly warm up. How are going to use the GTD for "normal" driving? The GTD would be ok for longer distance commuting.

There will be a few GTI's that are used for tracking and that would be a better option than the GTD, however the greater torque in the stock GTD should be more than ample enough to accelerate the thing up to the speed limit/allow ease of overtaking.

Doesn't change the fact that it's slower nor that it's unlikely to save you any money over the GTI when you factor in all the servicing and potential DPF replacement etc.

[Greg Roles]

So what's your GTI pull down the quarter Mav? <- serious question by the way...

[Mk6 GTI]

GTD + chip or R20 + chip = win.

GTI is now more of a daily driver for people who want to give it a bootful every now and then imho.

Why bother with the GTI when you can get the GTD and chip it so similar figures, yet save more fuel.

I only went the petrol variant of the tiguan becasue it was 3k less than the diesel at RRP.
If it was placed under the petrol price, i would have gone diesel no questions.

I guees you would get a GTI over a GTD because a GTI doesnt sound like a truck lol..infact sounds great. Its quicker, looks better with the detroits and the split exhausts, handles better, Servicing is cheaper..??

[pologti18t]

I thought the R came standard with cloth trim now.... are bixenon standard either?

[Corey_R]

I read something somewhere saying the GTD didnt have the XDS Diff?

GTD definitely has XDS diff in the UK spec car, so I'd expect we'll probably get it too.

Not that much price difference between an optioned up GTI and a R

That's not true. If the R comes in at R32 prices, than a fully optioned R 5dr (without electric adjusting drivers seat due to Recaros not having that) would be $90,500 on the roads in NSW (before Negotiation) compared with $71,00 for the GTI.
Note that much of this is due to the Recaros ($4000) and the 33% LCT.

[MariusGT]

The way I see it is fairly simple:

some people LIKE diesel engine characteristics. Massive torque, fuel miser..
tdi drivers feel free to chime in?

The GTD is a diesel alternative to the GTI.

[logger]

Where did these specs come from? The GTD certainly does have the XDS 'Diff'. Has VWA said that they're removing it for Australia?

Yeah given that it this much hyped "diff" is just software coding for the ABS module it is pretty likely the GTD has it too. Even my lowly TSI118 has the basic EDL (electronic diff lock) feature by way of the ABS and seems to me they just tweaked it a bit on the GTI called it the XDL and the rest is marketing hype. Some in the know say it may simply be a matter of changing the ABS coding in a non XDL MK6 MK60EC1 unit to implement it. Will have to get around to testing this, but I am not too sure how you would really know if it was working or not.