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CKTSI, If you go to the VW UK site you'll see they still produce a Golf GT TDI
However for whatever reason it is only available with the 103 KW/140PS 2 litre diesel. So I guess there is little point in VWA bring that model in as it is just the same as the Comfortline 103TDI aready sold here.
So the GTD it is, and that's a good thing.
They'd be silly not to bring the GTD to Aus. It would be a good seller. Can't beat Diesel power!
It is probably like the TSI/FSI/TFSI issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by cktsi
VW comes up with all these names and then no one knows anything about them or the differences between them except the true enthusiasts who frequent forums like this one.
the worst part is the dealers don't know the differences and hence cannot be a definiitve source of informaiton on prodcut differences.
It is much easier to go back to a single name and keep the GT(I/D) for the sports and everything else just a golf.
Otherwise we have a golf, golf gt, golf gt sport and golf gti/d etc.
In Mark 5 guise, the GT Sport TDI had sports suspension (similar if not identical to GTI), the fog lamps, dual climate, flappy paddles and 16" rims. Can't recall, but there may have even been tinting.Quote:
Originally Posted by coreying
My point is the track times for a Mark 5 GT Sport TDI vs GTD would be close if not identical as they have the same engine. Having said that you make a very good point that GTD will gain the XDS which will contribute to better handling than the GT Sport TDI - but then that's the Mark 6 evolution over Mark 5 anyway.
Yes, cosmetically GTD will get GTI style flat bottom steering wheel, special grey stitching & inserts... but to me these are minor cosmetic differentiators GT Sport TDI to GTD... compared to GT Sport TDI vs Comfortline TDI 2.0 where you had the lower suspension, dual zone air, upgraded engine, fog lamps etc.
Agreed though that the new nomenclature is easier on most people, but keen VW watchers like me will spot the substance underneath.
Correyng. VW sites and some GTD reviews say no XDS and others say yes it comes standard. Suspension on GTD not lowered as much as GTI I think.
VW UK says
GTD - "Sports suspension, lowered by approx. 15 mm"
GTI - "Sports suspension, lowered by approx. 22mm front; 15 mm rear"
That's ok... the fact is it is lowered suspension & probably firmer damping - so it's still sports tuned. The differences in height may be due to the different weights of the diesel engine vs TFSI
@cktsi - I realise the MK5 GT had several things which made it similar to the GTI, but it was still clearly positioned as an 'in between' model, whereas the GTD on equal level.
@Zeke - I checked the UK site when comparing the GTD to the GTI, and they've got the XDS as standard (and all the same inclusions as the GTI) and priced the GTD 500 pounds cheaper than the GTI. But you're right, the specifications and price could change if VW Australia decided to bring it here.
Thanks for the info on the suspension differences :)
Perhaps instead of the graffiti on our Golf's bum, (reads '2.0 TDI Pacific') we should have gone GTD, less to clean too:emo_baghead:
Actually, reading this thread, I'm pretty happy with the specs to dollars ratio.
I read somewhere that the MkV Golf GT and GT TDI have the suspension tune of the MkV Sportline model. As Corey says, it sits between the Comfortline and GTI in terms of ride height and firmness.Quote:
Originally Posted by cktsi
I'm with you. I love the badging on the rear of my CC. Nothing but the VW logo boot release. Not even a "Passat" sign anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by yowie
Love it as wash and polish/wax time too.