Gear change speeds

[cktsi]

Reading all these posts made me realise I should restate my suggestion to Newtogolf another way.... if you experiment with different change points, you will soon figure out the revs that the engine falls to AFTER the gear change.

Anyone who owns a 118TSI would agree that at least 1,500 rpm AFTER a gear change will give you just enough performance for day to day suburban driving (in the gear you have shifted TO). 1500rpm happens to be around where max torque is occurring to give you the additional comfort you're not "stressing the engine"... so I say just shift at whatever point happens to give you at least 1,500rpm. That will give you the blend of economy & performance you are looking for.

I've noticed that shifting around 1,900rpm happens to give you this result - but it depends on each gear - but this is a general rule. Of course the rpm's you give will depend on situations such as whether your on a hill, whether you have momentum etc etc

For instance, if you're going downhill, 1,200 rpm is enough to get you going. If you're going uphill, you may want more than 1,500rpm to 'start' with (but I'm amazed that 1,500rpm is enough after a bit of experimentation).

Those who haven't driven an FSI based vehicle recently, you will be amazed at how responsive the engines are these days at low revs. My mk5 2.0 FSI was a revelation. A test drive will put a shock and grin on your face like countless mk5/mk6 owners with an FSI based engine (I'm including the turbo & TSI engines in this statement as they all use direct injection)

[cube_3]

The thing is that you're still comparing apples to oranges. In my Golf GTI with the 2L Turbo, it never felt underpowered and floaty changing into 6th by 60km/h. Yet, like you've stated, almost any other car that would be a silly thing to do.
You should really go test drive one so you understand what everyone else is saying before trying to tell everyone that they're doing something wrong

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying everyone else is doing it wrong, I just have not had the joy have driving the turbo's yet, and it just seems a strange concept in my life of only NA engine experience. Hopefully that will all change in the near future

[cme2c]

Reading all these posts made me realise I should restate my suggestion to Newtogolf another way.... if you experiment with different change points, you will soon figure out the revs that the engine falls to AFTER the gear change.

An excellent observation. When you put it that way, both the Golf and my Peugeot do the same thing in different ways. The DSG in the 118TSI as you say puts the engine at maximum torque AFTER the gear change. Similarly , if I change gear in my Peugeot at max power (5500 rpm approx) after the change it is at about 4000 (max torque 4100).