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Thread: Dynamic / Adaptive chassis control (DCC / ACC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by coreying View Post
    But lets face it, good coilovers are going to cost you far more than the $1500 of ACC. From what I can see the Sachs Coilovers for the GTI are about RRP $3000 plus installation. KW Variant 3 coilovers are likely to be even more. (Kryten001 might be able to post here how much he paid for them to be installed on his Pirelli)
    If you import from the UK or US, should be considerably less (but then there are potentially warranty issues). Looks like KW V1's are selling in the UK for about 750 pounds. should be less than $2K landed.
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    you dont have to get V3's for a good quality coilover!

    V1, V2 or even Weitec's are goo value!!!

    Dont forget H&R which come in under $2k and have a real nice ride quality too

    I'd wait for coilovers, for me the ACC is just a gimmick..
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    Do we have any information on what ACC is actually doing to the existing setup?
    I'm thinking if ACC is just electronics applied to the stock suspension, or if ticking the ACC box gets you different suspension to the stock cars?

    Also comes up as an issue if i wanted to lower a Tiguan that has ACC. Can it be done?

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    I've just come off the phone with my dealer after asking him about this. He said to me that he had not had anyone ask him the question before (ie; What happens if you change to coil overs but have ACC optioned?). However what he did say was that when you are submitting an order for the GTI, there is a different code/selection for ACC for both 17" and 18" wheels. And in his opinion, if you select ACC and switch to coils, you will render the system useless as the technology uses the shocks to make adjustments. The way it does this is by limiting the amount of oil available to the shocks (less oil means firmer compression?). I didn't investigate any further beyond this but I cannot see the ACC working if coils are fitted. Perhaps if you just change your springs for a different ride it will work as the shocks are not necessarily replaced, but it might throw the system out as it will be set to work to certain settings. Hence the reason why there are options when ordering for a 17" setup vs an 18" setup based on ride height etc.
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    There ARE obviously other aftermarket suspension systems which allow this, variable oil pressure or magnetic charge etc but they'd be super expensive

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    I remember when I was buying the car and I was given a basic explanation of how it works (I guess it was similar to the explanation I gave in my last post), and I compared them to KONI FSD shocks..

    but I think I was told it's different to that.
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    ACC worth every bit of $1000

    I now have my 103TDI Sports Pack + ACC done exactly 110km what a car, it's easy to see why Golf VI has taken awards world wide. Getting back to ACC at $1000.00 with the Sports Pack it's worth getting not only the 3 settings but in sports mode it's integrated with the steering as well plus it's dynamic so it's adjusting to the conditions continuously in all modes, so it's not just Comfort, Normal and Sport it is variable within each mode. I'll give you more feedback in a few weeks. As an aside 2 months exactly from being loaded on the boat to my pickup, Not to Bad
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    Some tein coilovers are compatible with edfc (electronic damping force control) which allows in-car changes to damping as you drive.
    You can get this for around the same price as a set of kw v3.

    More fractional adjustment than acc, but not necessarily oem quality.
    A guy on golfmkv has these on his mk5 gti, only a matter of time until they surface for the mk6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosslm View Post
    I now have my 103TDI Sports Pack + ACC done exactly 110km what a car, it's easy to see why Golf VI has taken awards world wide. Getting back to ACC at $1000.00 with the Sports Pack it's worth getting not only the 3 settings but in sports mode it's integrated with the steering as well plus it's dynamic so it's adjusting to the conditions continuously in all modes, so it's not just Comfort, Normal and Sport it is variable within each mode. I'll give you more feedback in a few weeks. As an aside 2 months exactly from being loaded on the boat to my pickup, Not to Bad
    I am seriously thinking about the sports pack + ACC. I want comfort for the family but the option for better suspension for highways etc I really want an idea of how wheel the Comfort modes takes out speedbumps, pot holes, and off road. And how well the sports mode stops body roll. Anything you can post rosslm would be much appreciated.

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    I chose not to go with ACC as I may lower the car down the track and render the system useless.

    I guess it depends on what you are used to. For me, I've had S15s, 3 MPS' etc all lowered, so the Golf GTI is already pretty comfy compared to those.

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