DSG7 0AM Vag Com Data Logs

[logger]

Learnt something new today. Used to think "S" mode prevented the DSG7 from using 7th gear. This is not the case - you can in fact still get it to use 7th in "S". A case of beer to anyone who can tell me how to get it into 7th in sports mode.

[AdamD]

Learnt something new today. Used to think "S" mode prevented the DSG7 from using 7th gear. This is not the case - you can in fact still get it to use 7th in "S". A case of beer to anyone who can tell me how to get it into 7th in sports mode.

Cruise control?

My mother's MkV 2.0 FSI will slip back into the standard 'D' shift pattern if cruise is activated, even when in Sport. Which means straight into 6th (it's the non-DSG) at the first possible moment... d'oh!

[MurphyTheElf]

By going really really fast?

[logger]

Cruise control?

Bugger it was supposed to be a hard Question. You got it first go
It has taken me 6 months of driving to see S7 on the MFD.

By going really really fast?

Doesn't do it. Flat biscuit and it will only get to 6 of 7 in "S", which ties in with the manual saying max speed occurs in 6th.

[AdamD]

Bugger it was supposed to be a hard Question. You got it first go

Woohoo, case of beer! Oh wait, you're in Mel... hmm... roadtrip time, haha!

Well, when the GTI arrives anyway.

[logger]

@ Clubbie wrote in another thread, that this behavior of the DSG7 pi$$es him off..
The thread was locked by mod, so I have added a response here.

2) No detent on D to N on the DSG so easy to find neutral. Worse still if it is in neutral at the lights foot has to go on brake to get D again. This is ar$e about and pain as the car crawls when you release the brakes so it is nice to put the car in N on flat ground rather than standing on the brake pedal.

Keep in mind that things like this are done for good reason. It is a safety interlock system, therefore it makes a lot of sense for it to allow bumping out of gear to neutral from D or R AND to disallow the opposite. Namely bumping from N to D or R. If it was done any other way, it would be easy enough to envisage children bumping it into gear inadvertently with the engine running. or not so smart mechanics bumping it into gear and running someone/thing over.

I can understand how you find it annoying. Does not bother me though.

It can be actively circumvented though. It the interlock has a 3 second delay timer starting when you select away from D or R. So you could just slide the selector between D & N every 2.5 seconds and it will not lock you out of drive. Totally impractical I know but just passing this on as background info.
The other method (as mentioned by someone else) is to just give it a sniff of brake pedal. Just a poofteenth and nowhere near enough to actually apply the brakes. This will remove the interlock.

Here I digress from your orignal issue - But you can for example be reversing slowly and just lick the brake pedal and it will let you select directly from R to D while the car is still going backwards. Then you can press the accelerator and drive off forward. You would not want to do this in a torque convertor Auto as it will have a dummy spit. But I do not see any problem doing it with a DSG. Remember underneath it is working like a manual in with clutches. The difference in slip between clutch plates between a cars drivetrain going backwards at 5kph (or lets say 30rpm) and the engine forward at 1500 rpm as compared to a stationary drive train is inconsequential.


BTW for clarification, as there was some confusion it another moderated thread.
DSG7 OAM as fitted to the tsi118 Does Not Have Launch Control.

[Corey_R]

Thanks for the post and the clarifications logger

I'll link to your post from both of those threads

[clubbie]

Thanks for the response logger.

I have just seen the thread was closed, I did search but did not come up with this thread.

Understand the safety "accidentally bumping into gear" is dangerous, so minor pain there that I can live with. Just me being lazy.

Resting the hand on the gear lever (bad habbit - came from a manual SP23) can pop the car into neutral. So is there a setting that can be changed via vagcom or tune to change the detent setting to stop inadvertant neutral?

Clubbie

[Digitalic]

There is a theory going around the traps that you can reset a DSG7 gearbox by doing this:

"With the vehicle stopped and engine turned off press the accelerator completely to the floor including the lower stage where you feel the click and hold it for about 10-15 seconds. this will reset the DSG and it will relearn." or in short by activating the kick down switch for >10 seconds with IGN off.

I believe this is rubbish and does nothing. It is myth born out of a requirement in the post DSG reset fast adaption process to drive with different pedal positions. Including momentarily at 100% pedal so that the controller can recognise the value for full acceleration.

I then tested the accelerator trick to see if has any effect. I noted the number of clutch adaptations on DSG7 via VAGCOM and there were in the order of 160 & 170 for each clutch after ~ 5 months. So I then applied this foot to the floor procedure for various time periods over 20 seconds with IGN off and on. I then rechecked the adaptation counts and they remained unchanged. So perhaps I am doing it wrong or more likely it is just a crock.

So I then reset the DSG7 properly using VAGCOM and as expected the clutch adaptation counts dropped to zero. Next step was to attempt to complete the "Test Drive after OAM basic settings" procedure and as expected the clutch adaption counts climbed from 0&0 to 2&1. If the test drive is completed successfully there should be at least 3 per clutch. I was a couple short of the 3 per clutch but clearly the adaptation was under way again again from a reset at 0.

Procedure goes on to say:

"If the test drive cannot be performed in the recommended way for the necessary length, the still open fast adaptations are automatically and unoticeably performed in the subsequent driving cycles."

So to my mind this dispels the foot to the floor reset myth.

Can you please explain how to reset DSG7 adaptation using Vagcom/vcds? Only info I could find is for DSG6.

Thanks in advance!