DSG: Problems, Questions, Likes and Dislikes

Being a Newbie I greatly appreciate Maverick's frustration and concern re 'done to death threads'
Problem is knowing how to use a forum, and how to search, especially if first use of a forum. BUT, MUST LEARN, NO EXCUSES!!!
(Hey, how do I copy quotes?)

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Ordered 118TSI instead of 103TDI on evaluation of 103TDI DSG. Despite 103TDI surge of power going uphill, (Fantastic) 118TSI much smoother and "more like" standard auto in traffic.
But was only able to test around 3~5km. (Around town and highway). Main beef re 103TDI, and which scared me, was sudden flatout rev starting off from stop. eg, simuilated trafic lights. Was concerned re stress on mechanicals as well as comments from possible passengers!
(But also remembered fun of driving manual instead of auto. DSG best comprmise)
Yes, 118TSI could also 'surge' but to a much lesser degree!
And much better response when wanting to pass anothe vehicle!

Just a suggestion can someone make a poll to see who is happy / unhappy with their DSG

Had my GTI since thursday and the DSG has been perfect (i know it's new but i thought i would still post) never shift's into first unless im almost at a complete stop, never struggles on hills always seems to select the correct gear and when slowing down it change's down it doesn't sit in 6th. Have had no issue with the delay on take off.

Is the DSG 6 speed wet clutch that's in the GTI a better unit than the 7 speed dry clutch?

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Originally Posted by JasonMK6

Is the DSG 6 speed wet clutch that's in the GTI a better unit than the 7 speed dry clutch?

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It's better in that being a wet clutch it can handle more torque and power etc.

The newer 7sp dry clutch is probably better in that being 7sp allows for more fuel economy, it's a lighter and smaller DSG unit (from what I've been told, I don't actually have the service manual for this one), and it is cheaper to maintain as it doesn't need an oil change (or as much oil changed?) at 60,000km like the "life-time" oil in the 6sp DSG requires.

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Originally Posted by AdamD

I've found mine only shifts back to first at about 3km/h (ie slower than walking pace); anything above that and it remains in second. For many give-way scenarios it's remained in second for me (and you get quite a bit of clutch slip on the subsequent takeoff). I've also been quite impressed by how smoothly it shifts to first (in conjunction with clutch actuation) when decellerating.

If, on the other hand, I'm manually shifting down gears and select first at a higher speed, I find that the clutch actuation isn't so good as I actually come to a stop, and there is some lurch under the moderate brake application required for a gentle stop in traffic - making smooth stops difficult. So while I frequently drive in manual mode, I almost always come to a stop in second gear.

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It is when it is in Manual Mode that I'm annoyed about. In D mode, it's fine. Manual mode just irks me!

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Originally Posted by Maverick

If you want feedback on the DSG use the search button, there are numerous threads on this forum about it and all your questions will be answered.

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Regardless of anything else, you're not a moderator, Maverick, so if you don't want to read a thread on something you've seen before - don't.
It really is that simple.

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Originally Posted by Karlosovic

Regardless of anything else, you're not a moderator, Maverick, so if you don't want to read a thread on something you've seen before - don't.
It really is that simple.

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Regardless of anything else, you're not a moderator either, KARLOSOVIC, so if you don't want to read a thread or something you don't like - don't. It really is that simple.

I've got a 118 TSI with the 7spd DSG and the low speed jerkiness and lag on takeoff improved dramatically with use. The gearbox does need a bit of time for the clutches to bed in and the software to adapt to the clutch bite point. With 6500 km on it the lag is now imperceptible to the point where I am comfortable with shooting for the same traffic gaps as with a manual. I also found that when parking it is best to leave the accelerator alone as the sometimes your accelerator input can get out of synch with what the gearbox is trying to achieve with the clutch which results in jerkiness.

I come from a history of mostly manual cars and reckon that the lag is less than the time required for a manual driver to engage the clutch - it's just that when you're waiting for the car to do something it will always seem longer than when you're doing it for yourself.

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Originally Posted by Maverick

Regardless of anything else, you're not a moderator either, KARLOSOVIC, so if you don't want to read a thread or something you don't live - don't. It really is that simple.

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"read a thread or something you don't live" (sic) ???

Geez, I wish some people would read the dictionary first before posting. After all isn't a dictionary just an owner's manual for english? :nana: :bolt:

i drove a DSG GTD yesterday- it was pretty nice. didnt really get the whole idea behind S mode, as D+ [gear selectable] mode was more fun, and why would one not use that to change gears at their discretion anyway, when booting it?

in the diesel, i noticed that S mode did the silly thing of holding on till redline, in spite of the car's ability to accelerate quicker if short-shifted manually.

bloody nice car, and i can see why DSG would be the go for many people. i'd still be looking to order a GTD in manual, though. manual would be better suited to deal with moderate diesel tuning [450+nm].

hey coreying, just a question: i heard that the 7 speed DSG's [as about to appear in the new polo gti] are less tolerant of high torque levels than the 6 speed- any insight? as in, from the stuff i've read, chipping the new polo gti will net 300nm, but the 7 speed will be hard pressed to take it?

cheers,

scott

p.s. tux, dont let the trollers on this forum, put you off VW. it's a good community, but just like any online forum, there are those whom you wont be agreeable with..... dont let them put you off what is a very knowledgeable and valuable resource, though!

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Originally Posted by Maverick

There are already 29 threads with DSG in their title in this forum and 78 threads with DSG in their title in the Mark V forum (and more in the tiguan forum as well).

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But the tiguan has a conventional Auto?

Stoney!