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    DSG: Problems, Questions, Likes and Dislikes

    Just wanted to start a thread for any DSG owners out there who wish to vent their likes/dislikes/frustration

    I have ordered a GTI with DSG and was wondering what the DSG community thought of it.
    Would you buy another one ?

    I've heard comments that it is jerky at low speed, sudden downshifts and not smooth in city driving (compared a 6speed auto like Honda)
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulcito View Post
    Just wanted to start a thread for any DSG owners out there who wish to vent their likes/dislikes/frustration

    I have ordered a GTI with DSG and was wondering what the DSG community thought of it.
    Would you buy another one ?
    Pointless asking this after you just ordered one.

    I've heard comments that it is jerky at low speed, sudden downshifts and not smooth in city driving (compared a 6speed auto like Honda)
    I've heard comments that it's smooth at low speed, smooth downshifts and smooth in city driving (not compared against an automatic transmission as they share absolutely nothing in common).

    If you want feedback on the DSG use the search button, there are numerous threads on this forum about it and all your questions will be answered.

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    Paulcito, I've driven a DSG for four years and there were a few times in manual mode when downshifts were jerky. Pressing the accelerator a bit before down-changing helped. DSG downshifts for you even in manual mode anyway, so it's only worth manually down shifting if you want a kick in torque/speed, not to shift down at lights.

    If you try to drive a DSG in sport mode in low speed traffic, it will always feel abrupt and over-rev strangely because it has no room to shine. You'd always leave it in D.

    I had a mate who's a professional race car driver in my GTI two nights ago and he couldn't get over the smoothness of the DSG when it's driven how it's intended. He also just thought the GTI was fantastic in general.
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    I'm new to VW and.......love the DSG. Coming out of a Liberty GT spec B paddle shift auto which was bloody frustrating and dim witted, the DSG GTi is awesome fun. The only downside imo is that fluffy fart on upshift which I love but makes me drive it hard all day which means 11+ L/100km. Love the throttle blip on downshift. Love how it allows you to downchange into a lower gear with high revs (Subie would beep away and refuse to downshift for a corner aaaaaarrrrrggghhhh!) DSG being a manual box means much more direct drive and engine braking than slushy auto box too.

    Low speed jerkiness is a small price to pay and you can drive around it once you get used to it.

    When the GTi comes up for update in 3 years or so, it will be very hard to go non DSG. I guess by then many more manufacturers will be emulating VW.
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    Maverick, people like you make my blood boil! The thread this bloke started is perfectly legit. Leave him alone!

    These forums are for sharing information, not teeing off on strangers. Go and kick your dog or wife or something mate.

    Right then...

    The DSG is an interesting piece of kit for sure. Great when its all working. Its the reason i bought my VW 3 years ago instead of a Liberty. I was blown away by the smoothness and fun factor of it all. That blip of the throttle as you shift down under braking makes you feel like you're Schuey!

    As for reliability, it's been a hit and miss kind of thing. Most owners have no doubt had no problems, but there have been a few horror stories.

    The one good thing in Maverick's post was the bit about searching this forum. There's quite a few threads on the subject.

    My story - DSG started with roughish upshifts and a clunk from the rear end going from 4th to 5th. After 10mths of troubleshooting and replacement mechatronic unit, VW replaced the whole DSG under warranty.

    Then i wrote off the car in a flood! Doh!

    FWIW, I went DSG again in my new car, simply because of its fun factor. Plus I wanted to try paddle shifters and launch control!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Putt View Post
    Maverick, people like you make my blood boil! The thread this bloke started is perfectly legit. Leave him alone!
    I think Mav was just in a mood because he was replying to a post in the 16th AND 17th thread started by another member of the forums, and then come across this thread which has also been done before.

    But I would like to add that I was amazed at how smooth the DSG was in D. Sure, there are some auto's out there that are smoother - but the DSG is a manual which can change gears for you, and I don't know many manual drivers as smooth or quick as the DSG.

    As others have said - it can take a bit to get used to it - but once you're aware of how to drive it, it's awesome - and I too will find it hard to go non-DSG in the future. I'm particularly looking forward to the R which apparently has the 'lag at start' issue resolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Putt View Post
    Maverick, people like you make my blood boil! The thread this bloke started is perfectly legit. Leave him alone!

    These forums are for sharing information, not teeing off on strangers. Go and kick your dog or wife or something mate.
    I thought Maverick's points were quite legitimate, it does seem pointless asking the question after having placed the order. Maverick then pointed out that he had heard comments contrary to what the OP had heard, seems legit to me, finally he pointed out correctly that using the search function would lead the OP to a mountain of feedback either way regarding the DSG. So what's the problem?

    This thread will lead nowhere, the usual DSG haters will come to the fore and the usual DSG lovers (myself included) will make comments to the contrary.

    FWIW, I'm on my second DSG car, no problems at all, absolutely love it, it changes up when I would expect, it changes down when I would expect, is very smooth, changes are lightning fast and is very different to any other automatic both in concept and in operation. Is the DSG infallible? Probably not, but then, which manual transmission driver has got it 100% correct every time?...the answer by the way is none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Putt View Post
    Maverick, people like you make my blood boil! The thread this bloke started is perfectly legit. Leave him alone!

    These forums are for sharing information, not teeing off on strangers. Go and kick your dog or wife or something mate.
    There are many threads already covering the DSG and it's pointless starting yet another one especially when the OP doesn't even have a DSG so can't contribute anything and doesn't have a specific question.

    There are already 29 threads with DSG in their title in this forum and 78 threads with DSG in their title in the Mark V forum (and more in the tiguan forum as well).

    If the OP want's to do some research there are plenty of threads to keep him occupied, some of them include

    Long term reliability of DSG
    Factory Repair Manual for Mk 5 & DSG
    DSG servicing intervals
    Why not DSG?
    Pricing on 15k/1yr service for r32 dsg
    Mk 5 DSG Service costs
    DSG question
    DSG noise
    DSG Issue
    DSG replacement - more waiting
    DSG Issues
    7 SP DSG and chip mods
    Any Tips on Driving a New Golf6 with DSG?
    MT vs DSG survey
    Whining DSG box on Golf TDi VI Series
    And so forth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick View Post
    If you want feedback on the DSG use the search button, there are numerous threads on this forum about it and all your questions will be answered.
    Regardless of anything else, you're not a moderator, Maverick, so if you don't want to read a thread on something you've seen before - don't.
    It really is that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karlosovic View Post
    Regardless of anything else, you're not a moderator, Maverick, so if you don't want to read a thread on something you've seen before - don't.
    It really is that simple.
    Regardless of anything else, you're not a moderator either, KARLOSOVIC, so if you don't want to read a thread or something you don't like - don't. It really is that simple.
    Last edited by Maverick; 30-06-2010 at 01:12 AM.

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