DSG: Problems, Questions, Likes and Dislikes

I don't know if there are any significant difference between your DSG & mine, but I've noticed that changes in Auto mode are much more "slurred" than in Manual.

I normally drive in Manual, but for a while I drove in Auto to see if it made a difference to fuel economy. It did make a very slight difference; I realised I was not accelerating as hard, because I felt the clutches were slipping too much on changes. Whether or not this perceived slipping makes any difference to the transmission I have no idea, but I couldn't break the habit, so I went back to Manual mode.

I do get the occasional sharp change, but I haven't noticed any real pattern to it. First change of the day is typically as I turn a corner, so it's normally on light / no throttle, then I have a few hundred metres of downhill run for the next few changes.

I often use Auto in car parks, because it will hold 2nd at speeds that send Manual back to 1st. Anybody else notice this?

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Originally Posted by ParaBul

I often use Auto in car parks, because it will hold 2nd at speeds that send Manual back to 1st. Anybody else notice this?

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I have the 7sp dry clutch DQ200 DSG and I've definitely noticed it. In D, it will hold onto second at speeds much lower that it will in manual mode. Like you, i often end up putting it in D when in car parks.

Wife's 2012 MK6 90TSI with the the 7 speed DSG just went in to the dealer to investigate quite bad shuddering when taking off. As suspected, the clutch pack needs replacing, which they're going to do next week under warranty. It wasn't part of the recent gearbox recalls, so this is the first warranty repair.

I've had a 2009 103TDI with DSG for a couple months now. I've slowly come to learn the little idiosyncrasies of the gearbox and shed the habits I developed from years of driving with a conventional slushbox.

I like the DSG overall but there is one quirk that really bothers me and I'm curious to know if anyone else experiences this. Scenario: Turning into a street that immediately goes downhill. The gearbox seems like it has absolutely no idea what it's doing and can't decide what gear to select until I'm halfway down the hill. It revs and I feel resistance of varying degrees as the gearbox tries to figure out which gear it wants to be in to coast down the hill. I've tried adjusting throttle in various ways or using no throttle at all.

Also just to clarify, I'm not applying the brake in these situations so it shouldn't be attempting to do that thing where it shifts down to regulate speed with engine braking. Does anyone else have this problem with the 6 speed? It tarnishes an otherwise great driving experience.

Are you typically turning from a stop (1st gear) or while moving (2nd? 3rd?)
What gears follow? (i.e. 2 > 3 > 4 > 3 > 4)
What do you expect? (i.e. 2 > 3......... > 4)

One option is of course to become friends with Manual (tiptronic) mode. Another is Guy Harding's DSG tune.

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Originally Posted by Ryan_R

Are you typically turning from a stop (1st gear) or while moving (2nd? 3rd?)
What gears follow? (i.e. 2 > 3 > 4 > 3 > 4)
What do you expect? (i.e. 2 > 3......... > 4)

One option is of course to become friends with Manual (tiptronic) mode. Another is Guy Harding's DSG tune.

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It happens either from stop (i.e. 1st) or already moving (2nd onwards). I've observed what the MFD says when it happens and I feel like it's not telling me the full story. It might say 5th but the revs and varying levels of resistance suggest that it is shifting around trying to find the right gear. Not entirely sure what to expect except for the car to go downhill smoothly. I wasn't sure if it's a characteristic common to these gearboxes or if it's a quirk exclusive to my car.

hmmmm, maybe ask a passenger to record some video and upload it as Unlisted to YouTube and post a link here if you are concerned. On the one hand the car wants to shift up to be as eco as possible, but on the other hand the hill sensor in conjunction with what pedal inputs you make may make the car want to downshift.

delete pls

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Originally Posted by ryz

Hi all,

I own a Golf 6 90TSI with about 35k on the clock... And recently, the dsg started shuddering on the 2nd gear while turning or making an U turn.

For dsg issues, I had got the clutch pads replaced THREE TIMES in the past 3 yrs :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:. The car was bought in early 2012. The last time I got clutch pad replaced was in June last year in VW dealership in the ACT.

I am considering taking this car to the dealership again. Before I go there, can anyone please give me some suggestions on how to solve the DSG shuddering PERMANENTLY? It seems that the issues will reoccur by only changing the clutch pad. Should I replace other parts, like mechatronic unit or the whole gearbox?

And, does vw Australia extend the warranty on gearbox to 5 yrs?

I really love my vw golf. It's pretty fine other than the annoying gearbox issue. Thanks for your help!!

Cheers,
Jay

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Same issue with my wife's 2011 118TSI after the recall rectification 2 years ago. We went to a car dealer to trade in the car for a new car and the used car valuer spotted this issue immediately and, deducted $2K off the value for rectification work, so I lost $2K due to DSG design problems...

Do any of the experienced VW mechanics/enthusiasts on here have any opinion on the idea of performing more regular DSG services (including DSG fluid change). I know the manual says every 60,000km, but does anyone feel there would be significant merit in changing it at, say 30,000km? I'm just thinking that here it's hotter and more humid than Europe, and I also may or may not tend to have a bit more "spirited" driving habits than the average VW driver.... So more regular servicing might reduce my chances of failure down the track and may prolong the service life of the transmission?