Do you have rattles in the car?

[fryad]

I have just had my MkVI GTi at the dealer to get the door creaking issue looked at. They readjusted the rear doors (wouldn't admit if they were out of alignment or not but I agree with the earlier post in this thread that it's weird that when the rear doors are closed, if you push on them, they flex in a little!!).

Good news is that they have fixed the creaking issue. While it makes you think there is an inordinate amount of flex in the body coming and going out of driveways etc, it appears it's more to do with the complexity of door seals and rubbers....and I'd rather a well insulated and quiet car so won't complain about this!!

The solution was a spray with a dry anti-friction lubricant on all the rubbers and again, I have a silent GTi. So I asked where I could get some and of course, VW sell a tiny 100g spray tin for $75!! It's a regular issue on the EOS roof rubbers supposedly.

Anyone have any idea where I can get an aftermarket product of dry anti-friction lube for door rubbers to deal with this myself next time? Thanks.

[Corey_R]

IThe solution was a spray with a dry anti-friction lubricant on all the rubbers and again, I have a silent GTi. So I asked where I could get some and of course, VW sell a tiny 100g spray tin for $75!! It's a regular issue on the EOS roof rubbers supposedly.

Anyone have any idea where I can get an aftermarket product of dry anti-friction lube for door rubbers to deal with this myself next time? Thanks.

This has already been mentioned, both in this thread, and others, that the product VW are selling is called Krytox. It's made by DuPont.

Maverick has a write up about it on his site.

Judging by the figures he gives though, it is not a cheap product, so the cost VW are charging is not really out of the ball park.

Now that you know what it's called though, and the different forms it comes in, you may be able to find it cheaper elsewhere

[Transporter]

I use WURTH Rubber Care in spary can for all rubber door seal. It's a good product.

[fryad]

Thanks guys. Sorry, after posting I found the other entries including Maverick's great post. So with some searching I have sourced a bottle mailed to me for about $85 incl GST from Fluid Seals (.com.au) so you're right Coreying, looks like VW aren't overcharging. Nice to see! Just a shame we need to buy this stuff....but I found Ford forum users complaining of the same thing. I'll take a look at Wurth rubber care too.

[cktsi]

My MkV didn't have the flex sound coming from the doors, but my MkVI does depending on the temperature & humidity.

Is it more noticeable in MkVI because of the increased use of rubber seals? I can't report it to the dealer unless the door squeak is actually there on the day I take it in.

(Actually when my MkV did have the noise it was because the bolt holding the door came loose. Tightening removed the issue).

I also thought there was also a known problem with the door bolts? (been trying to search for the thread but can't find it)

[aj555]

I just test drove a new GTI this afternoon, a quick blast up some winding roads with some undulations in the road.

Other than the great drive from a really good car that I am seriously thinking of buying, the one thing that stuck in my minds was the amount of noise from the doors 'moving' around on their rubbers. It was most noticeable and something I would not expect from a Golf. It wasn't loose doors as there was no associated clicking noise that one gets with that issue.
There was a manual GTI at the dealer available, so if I had more time, I would have seen if that car had the same problem.

I took a Audi A3 2.0T quattro out on the same road a few weeks ago and had no problems at all.

[G-rig]

Audi could be worth the extra as those kind of noises piss you off.

[Corey_R]

The issue with the rubber seals affects more than just the Golf. It also definitely affects Audi's. It's purely due to friction between the seals and the paint surfaces after paint treatment (wash, wax, polish etc).
Depending on the car wash you use, and how you wash your car, it will go on its own. Otherwise you can use a product like DuPont Krytox.

[aj555]

The thing with the Audi was although I thought the interior was marginally better finished than the Golf, you couldn't justify the extra thousands for it.


My wife did agree though that she thought the Mark VI had a much better/nicer interior than the Mark V - helps sway the decision my way.

As for the door noise on the GTI, this was a demo model, I don't remember the total km's it has done. I will try the manual and see if it does the same thing.

[Corey_R]

You're missing the point... ALL of the VW's and Audi's (and probably any gear with large seals) have the potential to do it.

If you buy one, and it doesn't have it, if you polish in the door jams then it may do it! Like wise, if you buy one which has it, you can remove the polish or treat the seals and it will disappear.

As for the Audi being a better interior... I think the A3/S3 was better than the MKV, but the MK6 is better than the A3/S3. I guess it's just personal opinion, but I don't think Audi currently has a single reason to be more expensive.