A Bunch Of Merged "My New Car / Order" Threads

[Umai Naa!!]

Nonesense.

It's not dodgey if the dealer discloses to the buyer that they are in fact buying an older model. Besides, there's still plenty of new Golf 5s sitting in dealerships unsold. That's not dodgey, is it?

My landlady bought a new '07 build Jetta about 8 months ago. She doesn't care. She loves the car.

[STV4SYT]

There is a heap of old stock out there, ive seen 4motion passats with 07 build recently getting registered for the first time and put on as loan cars. Also heaps of Jettas around too the same. It is a bit more uncommon for the golf's to be that old.

Any of the R32's i have seen going out lately have been an 08 build.

[Lacoste]

Thanks for all your replies. To answer some of your questions, I am told that the car was manufactured in Jan 09 and the sports package is from the manufacturer not local.

Nicandlance and Flipperdog - apologies for the confusion about the cheque for trade-in situation, but I am getting a novated lease for the purchase. Both the dealer and the leasing company insist that the lease must be written on the gross purchase amount and not the net (changeover) amount. Is this correct?

With payment the dealer is requesting cleared funds (that is money in their account before the car is delivered). Is this standard practice?

Umai Naa what does a stock car mean? I am told the car has remained in the car yard with its protective cover, etc.

In the end what would you suggest I do given the situation? If I pull out now I will be liable for 5% of the transaction amount. Personally, I am not too fussed about the Jan 2009 manufactured date, but the issue for me is whether the 15% discount that was negotiated compensates for the 2009 manufacturing date. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[ozvino]

This all sounds reasonable to me; the dealer disclosed the car was a Jan 09 build (March landed in Australia makes that possible), so I wouldnt worry about that, you knew the cars age going in

Regarding Novated lease, the dealer is correct, you cant have any ownership in the car (thats a tax ruling), so the finance company must purchase the car from the dealer and then lease it back to you; thats all very standard practice

Its normal the dealer either gives you a cheque OR does a direct deposit a few days after you have handed the car in; if your doing this through a genuine VW dealership, I wouldnt worry about it, ive done the same thing a couple of times and the money always shows up; Id offer up the dealer is more honest than many simply by disclosing the Jan 09 build date upfront...

Your buying the car new I assume; the warranty starts the day you drive out of the showroom, regardless of when the car was built, you will be fine

If you got 15% discount, thats a reasonable price reduction; if you want my advice dont get too caught up with the discounts posted on internet forums, take them (and anything else posted on the internet) at face value......

[Flipper Dog]

Hi Lacoste,
That is clearer now.
Yes with a novated lease you finance the whole amount the car is worth, so any money which may come your way from a trade or what ever is yours and has no effect on the new cars price.

Cleared funds is normal but your lease company should have this arranged prior to you taking delivery of the car, you need to ensure that your finance people are on to this.
What normally happens is once you are happy with the condition of the car and ready to sign for it the dealer contacts the lease company and funds are credited to the their account, there may be a few minutes in delay but by the time you have been shown over how the car works you should be okay.

A stock car is a vehicle which was ordered as dealer stock and has not yet sold. These are normally held in the holding yards and not offered up to view in the showrooms or front yard. They are normally common colour/makes which a few are waiting around. It is not uncommon for cars to be up to a year old which have not sold. If you have a look across the road to Ford or Holden you will see heaps of the same. What normally happens is around the start of the new year the dealers sell these off with a reduction in price to clear room for newer models. Some times this is dealer only offered or backed by the manufacturer. You sometimes have the on road costs covered or some added on dealer fitted parts included, all to dress up the car and move it on.

Stock cars are normally kept under shade cloth or hard cover (warehouse) so are not exposed too much. Once washed and a quick detail you will be none the wiser. Remember part of the dealer delivery procedures is to service the car and have it as new for you, so if it needs a new battery or oils replaced than this is what happens.

Your discount of 15% for a car that is now 12 months old is not fantastic, this is still good value but there would be room to reduce that if you worked harder. Not knowing your situation or lease company you have gone through, but most offer a service to find you a car for you, via a broker. There is great saving there as they are in a position to gain a better price than any of us sole shoppers out here. Maybe a point to know next time.

In the end if you are happy with you have got, that it is available now for delivery, your trade was reasonable and the lease works in your favour then you have done well.

[RSwag]

I have always been amazed at brokers who come into forums pretending to be genuine forum users. They try and paint this picture that a broker would get a better price than you could because 1. He is a really nice guy and would do it for free and 2. They have the ability to get discounts the average Joe couldn't. Both are wrong wrong wrong

brokers make minimum $500 off the dealer per vehicle sold off the dealer and it is added onto the cost of the car. How else do they get payed?? Some I'd then will spin the line that they get their money by doing you finance so the Broking is free, reality is they get payed on both. As for their special relationship with dealers, this equates to an email or fax to 2 or 3 demanding best price. Nothing you couldn't do yourself

Sorry to get off topic

the rest of the advice although coming from what would appear to be a broker seems to gave some strong dealership knowledge behind it (maybe ex salesman) and is sound

[Umai Naa!!]

Lacoste, just to clarify, a stock car is a car that is ordered in for stock. Ie, it does not yet have an owner. Some are held in warehouses, others in holding yards, some spend time in the showroom, and others out on the front lot. If you're getting a good discount on buying last year's model, then yeah, take it.

[r32dsg]

All,

Anyone bought a manual 3dr with no options. Got quoted $38900 with corp discount. Anyone have a better deal?

[Christopher]

That sounds about right... When I got a quote for a 5dr with Detroits and corporate discount, it was about $2500 more, so seems reasonable...
It works out to be ~12% of RRP, which is what most GTI buyers are receiving..

[Corey_R]

Hi there, check the Golf GTI Mark VI Specifications and Prices thread.