Best way to screw the dealer post deposit

[Corey_R]

Say if for example you went out to purchase a new TV, would you bargain with the sales consultant to get the best possible price, or would you only bargain up to a point making sure you leaving margin in it so the sales consultant is happy?

You bargain - that's obviously.
What you DON'T do is turn up to collect and pay for the TV only to turn around and go "ok, so I'm here, and I've got my cash, but I'm not buying it unless you give me a free HDMI cable and that cheap blu-ray player over there cause I'm looking for ways to screw you post deposit" - such as you've conveyed in this thread

[Frankenstrat]

If everybody on this forum is of the opinion that they should all be able to buy a car at cost price from a dealer, then perhaps I am on the wrong forum, and maybe in the wrong industry. Something I will have to address as a result of some of the comments I see here.

Not everybody thinks that way, Dermot. Don't let it get to you, this thread started off on the wrong foot and now it's in danger of snowballing out of control.

[Allegiance]

You bargain - that's obviously.
What you DON'T do is turn up to collect and pay for the TV only to turn around and go "ok, so I'm here, and I've got my cash, but I'm not buying it unless you give me a free HDMI cable and that cheap blu-ray player over there cause I'm looking for ways to screw you post deposit" - such as you've conveyed in this thread

I NEVER said that I wouldn't purchase the car, would go back on the deal or anything of that nature.

Please quote me as saying that.

[RSwag]

Dealers will NEVER sell a car unless there's a profit in it regardless of how much they complain about a buyer wanting too much of a so called "discount". If they agree to a deal, they're still making money.

This is where you are so wrong. The consultant gets paid on what margin a new car has not on all the incentives. Volume bonus's, survey result bonus's etc could accumilate to 1,000's but because the vehicle itself only made hundreds the consultant gets the minimum $100 before tax.

You WIN
Dealership WINS
Salesperson LOSE

That was my point, the guy that does all the hard work gets stuff all and the business profits handsomely.

Not your concern though, i've had my say

Carry on

[Corey_R]

Please quote me as saying that.

No. You don't seem to realise it's not really just about the exact words that you used in your initial post, it's the attitude that you have conveyed, especially in light of the name of this thread.
You'd be far better off messaging one of the mods and begging them to delete this thread and pretending it never happen than trying to defend yourself now that you've upset so many people, including the dealers who come here and help us all without any pay or thanks other than the appreciation of the VWW members.

[Allegiance]

No. You don't seem to realise it's not really just about the exact words that you used in your initial post, it's the attitude that you have conveyed, especially in light of the name of this thread.
You'd be far better off messaging one of the mods and begging them to delete this thread and pretending it never happen than trying to defend yourself now that you've upset so many people, including the dealers who come here and help us all without any pay or thanks other than the appreciation of the VWW members.

Well I do apoligise if that is the way it has come across, however I never had any intention of doing that, nor could I even if I wanted to. Since I have signed a legally binding contact.

No use pretending this didn't happen, since it has.

[elisiX]

You bargain - that's obviously.
What you DON'T do is turn up to collect and pay for the TV only to turn around and go "ok, so I'm here, and I've got my cash, but I'm not buying it unless you give me a free HDMI cable and that cheap blu-ray player over there cause I'm looking for ways to screw you post deposit" - such as you've conveyed in this thread

This is what the thread was all about and this is the answer.

The thread has now become a bashing against salespeople in general.

For $50k a year I would not put up with this **** that's for sure.

[obiwan]

Well I think you've just learned, you negotiate the deal fully before you sign. You can't ask for extras to be thrown in afterwards. You'll know better next time.

[gtimk5]

11 pages of going around in circles.
To the OP, how bout thinking up decent thread titles or think about what you actually want before doing deals in the future.
For the sake of the OP, I will close this thread...

[Allegiance]

This is not meant to start up where it was left in the last thread. I only want to make this one post, I was going to edit my original post in the other thread however I cannot do that now it is closed.

My intention in the last thread wasn't ever to suggest that I was going to go back on the deal, back out of the contract, refuse to go any further with the deal, hold them to ransom or anything along those lines.

I do apoligise to the dealers that are on this forum and anyone else who thought that this is what I meant, and if any offense was taken.

All I was looking for where suggestions like this:

I got my front window tints and boot tub (around $500 worth) after I'd signed the contract. However - I paid almost full price for a fully-spec'ed GTI. This is why the dealer was feeling generous. If you turned the thumbscrews pre-signed, I wouldn't expect much. But you can see that it is possible.

Another angle.... use post-sales servicing as an incentive.

Things like post-sales servicing as an incentive.

Anyway that's about all I have to say on that particular topic.